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Wait WTF how does that work..now these fuckers can arrest you for just being in their presences of a cop. Wow this is fucked up. Who come up with this law and before you answer it some asshat with R by their name.
Who come up with this law and before you answer it some asshat with R by their name.
A whole bunch of asshats with R by their names, aka the Indiana legislature, along with our esteemed ~~coward~~ governor, Holcomb.
They acting like I do t have crazy zoom on my phone. We gonna see you.
25' is a good distance to stop audio recording, unless your mic got a zoom too.
Dirty cops are happy about this law. The funny thing about Indiana is that all they have is dirty cops.
It's really bad, but not quite as bad as that - the article lies about what the bill does. This bill would make it a crime for a person to come within a certain distance of a police officer performing duties if the person is told by the officer to stop moving or to move away.
More explicitly:
So they absolutely can arrest you for being in their presence; the minor caveat is that you have to be ordered to stop first, so you have some warning. What a fucked up bill.
The asshats by name (see iga link above, this is public information):
Authors:
Representative Wendy McNamara Republican, District 76
Representative Michael Karickhoff Republican, District 30
Representative Jim Pressel Republican, District 20
Representative Steve Bartels Republican, District 74
Sponsors:
Senator Aaron Freeman Republican, District 32
Senator Jack Sandlin Republican, District 36
Senator Mark Messmer Republican, District 48
Senator Linda Rogers Republican, District 11
So they absolutely can arrest you for being in their presence; the minor caveat is that you have to be ordered to stop first, so you have some warning.
In practice, there won't be warnings. They'll say, out of the blue, "I told you to move away," and then arrest everyone in the vicinity.
Also, how does this bill treat cops approaching you? For example, even if the cops do give warning, what if they continuously walk towards the person warned? I think this law is ripe for abuse by cops, who famously love to abuse.
Wow a lot of fucking Republicans who want to give cops full authority over the populalist. Wonder why? Must be worried about upheaval because they making the place a shit hole to live in?
and if you run your resisting arrest and fleeing the scene.
i guess they havent heard of this neat "zooming" thing that cameras can do
“This recording is inadmissible, it was zoomed in so much it’s impossible to tell with any certainty what is going on.”
Digital zoom is literally just cropping out the rest of the video. You’re not actually zooming in, you’re just losing context.
there's optical zoom too, though it's true that many cameras dont have that option
In a perfect world, sure. But in reality, the majority of devices do not have optical zoom. Most recordings of police are done on cellphones, and usually older And/or lower end models that aren’t using optical zoom.
But how can they get away with killing black people if the populace are allowed to get close enough to record them? Think of the cops!
I can see that going really well.
"Step back! 25 feet!"
"You're walking towards me. I'm just standing here.
"I said Step Back!" Discharges Taser while continuing to close distance