I support Lemmy but people saying Reddit is dead as of today and everyone is moving over is just way to hopeful or straight up delusional. If Lemmy does take off it will be years before it reaches anywhere near the amount of users Reddit has. Most of the people who said they will leave Reddit also won't commit.

Yes. I’m one of the many who kept using Reddit throughout the blackout, but once third party apps were killed, I would have to go out of my way to download the official Reddit app and relearn all the muscle memory browsing habits anyway, so why even bother? WefWef is great and I kinda despise the shit a Reddit pulled with their abrupt price hike.

My daily browsing on Reddit went from probably 1-2 hours of day to … well it’s not been long enough to tell but so far I’ve only viewed the site once from my laptop. My mobile use is now completely Lemmy.

I think there is a lot of hype going on here about migrations tbh. Lemmy is cool and all but reddit is certainly still generating/aggregating way more content and its where most lemmy content is originating at this moment. I think for now the tech folks are here setting up, a few of us are bumbling around discovering this, and everyone else is still on reddit. I am not a very techy person myself and lemmy is a weird system to wrap your mind around coming from reddit and I can see how people may not bother, especially this early. Just choosing an instance and then finding communities is like an absolute mindmelter if you're used to reddit and its' easy to see why people on reddit would not be keen to move away.

Got it. Yea i think the migration is really for the people that use third-party apps and the people that support them. reddit is fine its just how they act toward people who are litterally moderating and giving to the community by using third-party apps. i modded my sub from rif and apollo early on. We realized that u/spez was in total control and realized we couldn't do anything about it. we tried to protest but of course we are little fish. now we got lemmy and kbin. witch is actually better cause you arne't jus stuck to one platoform. yes people are mimicking reddit cause thats all we know. but give it time and we will stop talking about it. i say about 1 month or so. you will still see the people talk about reddit burning in hell lol and stuff but that's about it. the blackout brought out I think the real techies and then after the api yesterday and today closed the reset that used third-party apps and everyone that dosen't like where reddit is going are coming over now. #fediverse is huge and we didn't know about!

Same.. I think as the Lemmy apps mature and if Reddit quality decreases, then we could see more of an exodus. My hope is that apps might make it more accessible. It’s the Wild West.

The ratio of users that I remember Redditors often passed around was ten percent of users were active contributors that created new content and were active everywhere in all the subs. Every sub has a core group of people that create most of the content and drive conversations and connections. The rest of the 90 percent are lurking in the background and most just read and watch, several may take part and generally just repeat and repost content that was already created by someone else.

Once enough of those core dedicated Redditors leave, it will severely affect content. But even so, there is so much content on the site already that users can just repost old stuff endlessly and still drive traffic .... hell they could even just get the bots to just regularly bring up old popular content that users would see as new.

If Reddit does change for the worse, it will take time and it won't happen fast .... it will take months but probably a year or two to see any significant change.

Karma is an inherently destructive thing for many reasons. For people, it is a representation of other people's approval of you, so they'll do anything to boost that number as highly as possible, even going so far as to make fake karma farming accounts, create botnets to upvote themselves and downvote opponents in arguments, and post garbage content instead of engaging in meaningful conversation with other people. For corporations, it's a marketing tool they can exploit to manipulate public opinion, by creating or buying high-karma accounts to convince people to buy shit, or to mass downvote people who point out flaws in their arguments or products, or figure out what they're planning and try to call them on it. They can use karma to discredit opponents, astroturf, and even sway elections indirectly. It's one of the reasons why civil and political discourse have completely collapsed in the USA.

That list is not exhaustive

It works for wikipedia, and that's a big, monolithic organization. The distributed nature of Lemmy makes it more possible to run off donations, because individual instances are smaller and require less exotic hardware. They don't have to store the entire corpus of Lemmy content, etc, etc. Smaller instances means less human resources and attendant management. I think most of these instances are still run by volunteers as passion projects.

I don't think that will work as instances start getting to the million user mark. 10M... I'm interested to see 1) if Lemmy actually gets that big and 2) if users condense on one or a handful of super-instances or some other form of organization develops.

I can imagine, for example, Electronic Arts starting their own instance for arms-length game sites that might attract a large swath of people, or Nikon sponsoring an instance that specializes in photography and imaging-related communities.

About the "less fragmented" part.

I don't see how that is possible in the fediverse.

Let's say I like fishing and a fishing community exists in five instances... That fragmentation you can't avoid... In the other hand it helps with the resilient part I guess. The more fragmented it is the harder it will be to take a community down.

Having multiple communities under the same subject in different instances will soon become normal, for better or for worse.

I have read some comments in github discussing possible ways to develop something akin to "mutireddits" (or more recently custom feeds) so people can group communities like this across different instances.

Let's see how all this plays out. Interesting times ahead in the fediverse.

It's so weird to be on the recieving end of the "Reddit hug of death" for a change.