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At some point you have to see you are getting scamed (lemmy.ca)

submitted 6 months ago by olivebranch@lemmy.ca to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[-] IkarusHagen2@feddit.de 39 points 6 months ago

I remember a time when c/memes was all about funny memes and not megacringe

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 28 points 6 months ago

At some point you have to see that you are posting Pootie's 'both sides' bullshit.

[-] Titan@beehaw.org 19 points 6 months ago

How about liberals choose a candidate worth voting for for once, instead of begging leftists to support their shitty neolib ghouls

[-] olivebranch@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

Because then they would have to pretend to care for poor people. This way, they can just help Trump get elected in primaries, so they can just scare people into voting for their horrible candidates instead. They know what they are doing and it is working.

[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Joe Biden is going to kill thousands of people, and his actions will make fascism in the US inevitable. He's on record in the past saying the IDF doesn't go far enough in its murder of Palestinians. He's a terrible person. Please vote against him in the primary. A Biden presidency will end lives.

Please vote for him if he wins the primary. His election will delay fascism in the US by four years. It will make time for thousands of trans refugees to escape America. He might be persuaded to pressure Israel to call a ceasefire. A Biden presidency will save lives.

[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

By the way, this thing I'm doing is called nuance. You should try it some time.

[-] olivebranch@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

You need to do more than that if you want to fight fascism in America. Primaries aren't fair, the rich choose who gets elected. And by voting for any prowar candidate instead of some other prowar candidate will not change much either, as there is nothing more important than the loss of human lives. As important as trans rights are, people in Gaza can't escape now and they are actively being killed now. Focusing on trans rights now is like saying "All lives matter", they do, but no body is saying they don't, we just have people who are under threat right now.

[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, of course I'm doing more than voting to change politics. I'm a soulist, I'm also helping grow waylets and establishing mutual support networks and doing war against the gods. When's the last time you tried to destroy reality?

[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Voting Biden. Hoping it matters.

BTW: scammed.

If Lemmy is to survive we need to get that spelling correct in our memes or we are not better than post-IPO-Reddit.

[+] olivebranch@lemmy.ca -23 points 6 months ago

Whenever I see democrats fearmongering that Trump will win, I always think of the fact that Hilary's campaign was the ones that got him elected in the primaries, just so they can do this.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

It's cute because you think you know so much more than the rest of us. Well, spill the beans! Tell us all the evil things Joe Biden is plotting. Tell us all about the ongoing court cases he's facing in multiple states.

If you want to convince someone here's your chance. No memes, no haha he says the wrong word sometimes, give us your reasons.

[-] olivebranch@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

Here is the link for my claim in this comment about Hilary supporting Trump. Just search for "Hilary pied piper" if you want more links.

As for proof that Biden is a genocidal maniac, here is the link for his support of Israel's genocide. By the way, he sidestepped congress in this. So not only is authoritarian, but also genocidal. If that is not fascism, I don't what is.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not going to bother clicking on the Hilary thing, because last time I checked, she wasn't running for president.

So, you brought one thing to the table. Biden sent tank shells to Israel. Personally, I dont support either side in that war, and maybe this is selfish, but I really don't care either. They've been blowing each other up for decades and it hasn't affected my life yet.

If I'm understanding you, sending tank shells to Israel is just as bad as everything Trump did put together. Is this correct?

If you really aren't familiar with what Trump did, I can find you a list of his crimes. (Not controversial policies, CRIMES.)

[-] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I'm not sure why I didn't realize it before, but you just made me realize that if the Palestinians had the upper hand right now, they would absolutely be wiping out Israel. The world allowed this division to foment for too long; our failure to enforce UN resolutions means both Israel and Palestine have set aside the idea that the global community will ever hold Israel accountable. For Israel, that means acting with impunity, for Palestine that has meant taking matters into their own hands, however hopeless that is, because they gave up on international justice. (and rightly so, it's a performative joke)

What's the first thing you do when you try to get two people to stop fighting? You separate them and give them some time and space to calm down, that's not possible here so the two nations are permanently like two boxers nose to nose.

[-] olivebranch@lemmy.ca -5 points 6 months ago

Liberals get so focused on law, not questioning what the law is about and who wrote that law and for what purpose. Killing innocent people is the worst thing you can support, even an insurrection, as horrible as it is, if it didn't get as many innocent people killed, is far less immoral then actual war.

If your ideology is unquestionably supporting the law, then you are fascist, by definition.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Oh. So you're just here to dance around any actual conversation. Nevermind.

If I wanted riddles, I'd talk to the Sphinx.

[-] olivebranch@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago

I thought I replied to the main point of the argument. I can reply to those specific questions, but I don't think that really communicates my point. It is not necessarily as bad, but it is very close. I don't really think that most problems with Trump are comparable to killing huge population of innocent people. Most of the problems are general racism, corruption and thievery. Most articles critiquing Trump aren't about how he rounded up a bunch of innocent people in Gaza and starved them to death. As horrible as he is, you need to see the weight of these actions by Democrates and that they can not be accepted under no circumstances. They should be addressed as a priority.