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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 55 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When you're so hard for the theocratic oligarchy that you shut down the ability of dissent to spread on the internet outside of your own country

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

But now they can’t watch porn. Like every time allied troops found a computer of one of these islamic extremists groups in the Middle East it’s usually chock full of porn.

[–] profoundninja@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Well that can still watch porn. Just not the latest drop.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

And games. There's a non-zero chance that someone teabagged Osama bin laden in counter strike.

[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Religious extremists generally view it as immoral. By having it on their computers it highlights their hypocrisy.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nothing. Except they are Muslim extremists who say that porn and masturbation is forbidden. So they are hypocrites who just want to oppress people. Plus their views on women are fucked they would definitely murder a female relative if she made porn, yet they are addicted to it.

They also don’t just watch normal porn, like troops found cp and bestiality on those recovered computers.

[–] phreekno@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Yemeni Houthi rebels are believed to have damaged undersea data cables in the Red Sea that link Europe to Asia. The Iran-backed Houthis had already threatened to target the fiber optic cables, which carry an estimated 17% of the world's internet traffic, and it now appears that the group has carried out attacks.

Damn, pullin out all the stops now.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It really seems like the easiest solution to this is to stop the genocide guys.

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Oh man the amount of shock you'll experience when the Houthis continue their attack regardless of any ceasefire...

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago

oh no then we'll have stopped the genocide for NOTHING

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

Except when they stopped during the last ceasefire.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

This is not a long term campaign, they have been extremely clear of what they are doing, why they are doing it and under what terms they will stop.

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[–] xor@infosec.pub 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ukraine, Palestine, or which genocide?

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since this was a tech article and they didn't bother to report on why Houthi's are carrying a campaign in the Red Sea. It's Palestine, they are disrupting Western interests for their continued support of Isreal as it kills off the native Arab population.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

well they claim to only be targeting israeli ships, not "the west", and that they didn't attack the cable at all...
but, gotcha... the palestinian one...
should this current one be considered a new genocide? or a ramping up of the continuous one?

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Isreal, American and British ships.

Isreal only ever pauses it. The oppression and subjugation of the Palestinian people doesn't stop by design, in order to breed opposition to justify resuming.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

>well they claim to only be targeting israeli ships

where did you hear that?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I mean hopefully both. The Yemeni genocide is also pretty bad so if we could do something about that it'd be nice staring at SA and the US.

[–] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 8 months ago

oh, i thought you were talking about the hundreds of thousands of children trump detained at the border

[–] uSpetzWon@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think starting one might be more reliable...

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

You blame entire ethnicities for what's going on and not the capitalist class benefiting from the military industrial complex profiting from the subjugation of indigenous people through colonialism?

That kind of ignorance is exactly how the current shit becomes justified.

[–] killpunchdeluxe@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You know if they don't post a vid showing off some shiny new submersible soon, then they probably went about it in the jankiest way possible

100 meters is pretty deep for scuba diving too...

[–] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I was looking at this back around the Nord Stream stuff.

You can get off-the-shelf small UUVs for like $30k that you could use to plant explosives from a boat.

It's actually a real issue for pipelines, because there's essentially nothing by way of treaties protecting them. Companies just kind of started building them, and nobody has really gone about methodically attacking them yet.

For cables, there's some treaty from the late 19th century, I think signed in Paris, that covers them. Which some countries have signed.

googles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Submarine_Telegraph_Cables

Yeah, 1884.

And even if the Houthis would consider themselves bound by it, Yemen isn't a party to the treaty.

[–] killpunchdeluxe@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I always hear about how cheap and easy it is to buy aerial drones, but really nothing about UUV's.

$30k seems doable for the Houthi, but prob not something they could mass replicate. And they're pretty limited as to which sections of the pipelines are viable targets.

googles too

I found a small one for $5600 with a 330 ft depth rating. It's tethered, but you could prob extend it:

UUV

It is wild how exposed the pipelines are, and there's MILES upon MILES of them. I guess people figured their depth would protect them... But tech keeps getting cheaper, more capable, and more accessible ¯_/(ツ)_/¯

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Keep in mind that it's not just reaching the depth -- that you gotta have the payload to haul an explosive package and at least enough manipulation ability to place it, and I don't think that that $5k UUV has any manipulation capability, from a quick glance. Though the payload issue isn't large, if you're gonna rely on a tether, are willing to wait, and are willing to make your explosive package roughly neutrally-buoyant.

But, yeah, in terms of vulnerability, a $30k or $5k UUV, generally-available to the public, is more-or-less identical -- like, there's no real bar to getting either. And I can imagine that $30k definitely isn't the lowest out there.

It is wild how exposed the pipelines are, and there's MILES upon MILES of them

Yeah, I dunno how you'd counter it. You could have sensors and some kind of counter-UUV system down there permanently, all along the length of the thing, and at greater cost, that could maybe stop one UUV and warn authorities of trouble at that point, but I don't know whether that could be combined with other capabilities to translate into an effective defense of a whole pipeline/cable.

In WW2, we defended convoys, but that was a single point, not something always spread out along the whole ocean.

It's especially an issue for Europe, which has a lot of submarine infrastructure in shallow seas surrounding the continent. If the EU could get their politics together, they could probably do the equivalent of eminent domain, cut infrastructure corridors overland, but links to Scandinavia, the British Isles, and Africa are still gonna be submarine.

[–] killpunchdeluxe@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe some sort of cheap buoy network outfitted with sensors, GPS, and a longterm sustainable power source

Idk how feasible that would be and can't even estimate how many buoys it would take to cover everything

But you could anchor or even connect some of them directly to the pipeline itself. If it's a network, having every few buoys connected via fiber optic to the pipeline would allow them all communicate and transmit data fast af

Might be possible to collect submarine comms too if the tether acted like an antenna haha

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] killpunchdeluxe@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Actually yeah. Didn't even think about that

Def a possibility

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sniper rifle from the surface

[–] S410@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Regular bullets fired out of regular firearms basically disintegrate in water. Counter-intuitively, putting more energy into a bullet only worsens the results, making it stop even faster.

Underwater firearms do exist, but they are not common, and even they have incredibly limited range. As far as I know, none have effective range greatly exceeding 50 meters, let alone 100.

[–] killpunchdeluxe@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Whaaat I didn't know they made those!

*googles

Looks like Russia made one during the Cold War for frogmen firefights (<-wild) At a depth of 15 ft, its effective range was 99 ft!! The deeper you go the worse it gets though, and it totally sucks on land too

Frogmen Firefights

*edit 99 ft, not 909 :(

[–] S410@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Every source I can find mentions maximum effective range at 15ft to be ~98 feet, not 909. So that zero in the middle is probably a typo, if I had to guess.

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Whoosh, that was not a serious suggestion. More on the noncredible side, as a fact.