Star Trek

I have to imagine a lot of this "I'm done with woke star trek" crap is perpetuated by bots and shills. Post histories on Reddit for accounts saying these right wing talking points were either days old in response to some new Trek show or episode, or years old accounts that haven't posted in forever then suddenly posted a bunch of talking points in every thread they could find.

There were definitely legit accounts of people upset by new Trek for other reasons but far outnumbered by "anti wokester" puppet accounts. When it came to Twitter I wouldn't bat a lash if one out of every hundred accounts were bots. After noticing their trends they get easier to spot. It's the only thing that makes sense when the alternative is there are legions of trek fans that never noticed how progressive the shows were and suddenly decided to be angry in the past couple years.

I agree. Star Trek has always been woke. Comments that this is a new phenomena confound me. I have no idea what sort of mental gymnastics are required for such a stance. Star Trek's IDIC happened right under their noses, yet they didn't notice. TOS by today's standards may not be considered as pushing boundaries. At the time it was broadcast, TOS put out some radical ideas. No more wars between countries on Earth. An end to racism. Uhura and Sulu as part of the command staff on the bridge. Dr. Richard Daystrom was portrayed by William Marshall, a Black actor. Majel Barrett's Number One in TOS's "The Cage" was no a damsel in distress. There are other examples in TOS, too. Subsequent Star Trek series continued and expanded on IDIC with the series stars, guest stars, and stories. But, still there are those who think Star Trek "suddenly" went woke?

Sometimes I think that referring to Star Trek as being suddenly woke is just a dog whistle. But then I'm back to what Star Trek any folks using that term were watching in the first place.

Currently (re)watching TNG S05E17 AKA the anti-Trans conversion therapy episode. From 1991. Starting to understand why I have the values I do, since I grew up with this crew.

There are always going to be people that are offended by diversity, but if anything we've witnessed from the fan response to these recent Star Trek shows like lower decks, STD, Picard, and strange new worlds, It's that there's different ways of using diversity in a story.

Diversity that seems natural to the plot and diversity that seems to be the plot are treated very differently by different kinds of fans. The former seems to be well received even by people that aren't huge fans of diversity. The latter seems to be grating on a large number of fans.

What I think almost all of Star Trek except STD did very well is to use the infinitely diverse universe to tell stories about the human condition and the future of hope. Why I think STD failed at this is not for the inclusion or the diversity but because it made it the A plot repeatedly in a time when the society we are shown the universe through is supposed to take diversity=strength for granted.

Other treks wouldn't care that you are gay, black, trans, or the descendant of a bad man, but there was still inter species conflict and an intense fear of genetic engineering that created a context for exploring various modes and motives for conflict.

I don't think this article justifies it's central premise that anyone thinks Star Trek wasn't always "woke".

Often, but not always. Remember it didn't originate as a right wing epithet. Time to take it back.

I'm not clicking a link that uses that term