Might be worth remembering here that Lemmy instances, including .world are hosted by regular people. Not massive multinational companies worth billions who can engage the best legal talent around.

If Hollywood comes after a Lemmy instance, Holywood have a huge legal team and endless money. The Lemmy instance has some guy. They could quite literally destroy a persons life. With that in mind, I don't blame any instance owners for erring on the side of taking a stance that won't put them in the legal firing line.

Some of the comments in here are a fucking disgrace and a disappointment.

I just shut down my own self-hosted instance the other week because of legal concerns. Caching anything and everything that gets pushed to my server and basically having to put all my faith in other admins taking care of illegal stuff in a timely manner was stressful and not worth the risk. And that was a solo instance!

It’s only a matter of time until lawyers backed by millions of dollar come knocking on the door of lemmy admins and I can’t fault lw for being pro-active. Whether or not it’s legal in your jurisdiction to host communities like this doesn’t matter at all if you’re not the one with a name attached to the server. Even wrongful legal claims by copyright holders are costly and time intensive to fight back against.

Why should a private person who hosts an instance for thousands of users for free subject themselves to such a risk?

It's unfortunate, but it's kinda understandable why they chose to do so. The admins are just a bunch of regular people, they may not have the financial security to risk the legal issues that could come from having any sort of piracy related content.

I guess I'll just be using my alt acc for piracy stuff.

Situations like these are the strength of the fediverse. Move your account to an instance that shares your values or doesn't care about stuff like this.

Maybe you shouldn't even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

Edit: Didn't mean to ridicule any of you all. I based my comment on my experience when I signed up. At that time there were plenty of instances to pick from and getting approved at my instance of choice was very quick. My bad.

This is probably the best option for Lemmy.world. It’s not being run by a big company, after all. Normal people often get screwed when their servers have anything related to piracy on them.

I think people forget that decentralized doesn't mean anonymous, and it also doesn't mean that server admins and servers aren't beholden to local laws

Wtf dbzero was a huge proponent of the fediverse and has been a part of the recent swell in users. I don’t agree with this decision at all

I'm late to comment, so I may be typing into the void.

I understand the admin's decision to limit their exposure to legal risk. I had similar experiences as a small business owner and you would be surprised how quickly most people's idealism is tempered by the risk of potential legal action. It's totally possible to believe strongly in the legality of something and its benefit to society (in this case piracy) and still choose to limit your own legal exposure. As far as I know, none of us paid to be here, so the polite thing to do is say "thank you for hosting us" and move on if it's not your thing (or just make a second account).

I believe our current copyright/intellectual property scheme is broken at best, and designed to fuck us out of every bit of culture that has ever existed, at worst. Piracy exists because the system is broken and the industry is entrenched and refuses to adapt to customer demands. It screws music fans, artists, and probably the individual low-level employees of many music industry companies and organizations.

Given lemmy.world's uptime vs how well pirates keep torrent seeds up, I'd be surprised if anyone in that community actually uses lemmy.world as a primary instance lmao

I love these comments. It shows the federation is working. If reddit did this it was "oh no what now" but with lemmy it's just "time to move to another instance"

This is not difficult to deal with, setup an account on another server and stop using lemmy.world

Despite reports I have decided to keep the comments open and the post up. I think removing this will only add fuel to the fire.

And here I thought that Fediverse was serious about being an alternative to heavily censored platforms. Now I see it's just a joke.

Beauty of fediverse, people can just find another spot or move to another instance while most of the community continues no problem.

Just an example that system working as intended

What's the fucking point. The community isn't even hosted on lemmy.world. I don't want to have to create a new a account on a new instance every time a dumbass admin decices to block a community I follow. Lemmy is doomed to fail.

Why are so many people still on Lemmy world. We're supposed to be decentralized. One of the benefits to decentralization is that you can choose to avoid blocks like this. Stop centralizing!

This is fucking lame and will have a HUGE impact on Lemmy as a whole.

Sorry to be blunt, but this is an ignorant and dumb move. Nobody likes over-moderation.

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piracy is the only remaining counter force to the full blown mega corp monopolies that have full price control and right now showing us that with their way above inflation extraction antics.

It’s sad it has come to this but given failure to regulate and the concentration and capture of almost everything by these companies rent seeking everyone really requires some kind of counterbalance.

I’m guessing LW is also prepping for a shareholder sellout down the road.

Turns out finding a good lemmy instance is a huge pain in the ass. I started on lemmy.ml but it was full of tankies so I moved to lemmy.world now they banned piracy so I'm on lemm.ee which gets a lot of crap from tankies still, not as bad as lemmy.ml but it's really fucking annoying. Like I'm not interested in Russian propaganda or how the soviet union's genocide was justified actually, please give the user a way to block all tankies and nazies and stop blocking things globally for everyone.

Who would win?

• One troll account made 10 hours ago.

• the entire lemmy.world userbase.

Admins decide.

I don't know why people feel indignated by this, they're just trying to save thier ass and prevent future problems with the law. Chill out

lemmy.world admins need a lesson on the Streisand Effect.

The nice thing about federation is that we can all go fuck ourselves and die alone on our personal private servers under a bridge.

All for a request of a racist troll/disney bootlicker

Eh, so what? Migrate to another instance.