This is fucking awesome
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Wait isn't the point of Conservative, that they didn't do anything? Like, they leave things be, right? Liberals change stuff and conservatives don't do shit, or did I get that wrong?
The point of the branding yes, however the actual point of any right wing party in 2024 is not slowing change, but active regression.
Funnily, liberalism is the most politically aligned with not really doing anything, the whole philosophy more or less boils down to: we're not gonna get in the way of whatever you're up to as long as you're not getting in the way of what someone else is up to.
The left-wing is where progressive change actually comes from, and often you'll see resistance to actual progressive policy from both conservatives and liberals.
Wow there, is conservative now just automatically right wing? Didn't know that... (very much non-american here)
Yes, conservative has always meant right-wing from the very first use of the political "wing" terms. The conservatives sat on the right side of the room during the French Revolution.
That should be the point, but in modern politics (especially in the US, but also in much of the western world from what I can tell), the people calling themselves conservatives have tipped over into reactionary/fascist territory, and the liberals have rushed into the void they left and taken over the "No change/slow change" position.
Oh no. Do liberals are just gone now? Or does America now just consist of right-wingers, slow change people and left-extremists (ay that's me)?
Yeah, the forces actually fighting for positive change are usually labeled as progressives or leftists now, and we have little representation in many world governments at the moment (certainly very little in the US).
It's genius because now everyone is right wing
Originally they were trying to conserve the monarchy as democracy swept through Europe. Here's a video that goes into more detail.
In modern times conservatives courted racists in the US with something called the southern strategy. This has lead all of them down the path to fascism.
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This is something that people need to be reminded about:
The OG conservatives, the Reagan and George H. W Bush conservatives, the fiscal responsibility conservatives, the tough-on-crime conservatives are the very same movement as the MAGA movement, the transnational white power movement, the Christian nationalist movement, the Project 2025 / Project 47 movement.
The policies advocated for and still pushed by the OGs are what led to Trump's takeover of the GOP in 2016, the MAGA uprising and the movement towards one-party autocracy. The ones that are complaining now that the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society and Trump and MAGA are going to far still believe in the same policies that got us here. They just wish we had a few dozen more miles to plummet before smashing into the ground.
They didn't just by tickets to ride this train. They invested in the railroad company. They told the company where the destination was when they hired on the workforce. The railroad was built to their specifications.
In fact, we were pretty close to here during the Great Depression, only the people were much more into communism and what the Soviet Union was trying to do than what was happening in Italy and Germany. Only the industrialists wanted the fashy stuff.
After the New Deal, WWII, the Cold War, the Great Society, and then forty years of right-wing propaganda spoon fed to us and our kids, We're marching to a faster pace once again. But the conservatives were always on board from the beginning. They just imagined the parades and not so much the brutality and genocide.
And they certainly didn't imagine the genocide projects would eventually come for them. ( Narrator: The genocide programs will totally come for the OG conservatives. )
Perfect
Mfw I lend comfort to the enemies if everything that is good and green on this world
Even "what I think I do" is acting smort to deny people's rights. I guarantee whatever Bien Chapeau is saying at a university in Florida includes overt transphobic bigotry, even if the subject matter was supposed to be climate change.
ugh