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Hello all!

I have been out of the piracy game since a little before mullvad lost port-forwarding; I know these things are ever changing, and to my understanding ivpn is a good bet at this moment in time.

I was wondering what everyone else has been using. As well as if anyone has tried the gui client for ivpn either built from source or the AUR build(I do use arch btw).

I am open to any vpn client that has a good reputation in the community, and build-able from a repository; A gui is preferred but not necessary, and absolutely NO account creation (Except for generic account numbers of course).

Thanks in advance for anyone who takes the time to answer.

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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The same 3 VPNs get recommended each time this question is asked:

  • Mullvad
  • Proton
  • IVPN
[–] Cannizzaro@feddit.ch 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] L26@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Doomguy1364@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Sorry to spam the instance with a FAQ. I may of been misinformed, I was under the impression it was difficult to seed easily with Mullvad now. Also I was curious if anyone had recommendations with good Linux clients, not just the service itself; It seems IVPN or Mullvad will be the best all around option for me, if I do go the VPN route.

[–] fiddlesticks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can confirm that seeding with mullvad is painfully slow, if you do torrent locally get a VPN with port forwarding.

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[–] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Only Proton should be recommended for torrenting since it has port-forwarding. I don't know why people love suggesting these even without port-forwarding.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Because most people aren't tech savvy enough or have the need for port forwarding.

[–] ThoGot@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

What is the advantage of port-forwarding? I use Mullvad and don't know if I'm missing some critical feature

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Port-forwarding isn't essential for torrenting. It really depends on the user as to whether that's an important feature.

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[–] Captain_Red@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Mullvad. The others have horrible apps on Linux.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Mullvad doesn't support port forwarding anymore. I use airvpn and you can just use the native WireGuard (or OpenVPN if you'r crazy) apps on different platforms if you want.

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Tbf, you don't really need any app. With Mullvad I just download configuration files and import them in KDE. It really is dead simple. Now enabling VPN at will is just two clicks with the possibility do make it automatic with three to four clicks.

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[–] falconhoof@artemis.camp 18 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I've been a ProtonVPN user for years and they have been rock solid since day one. It's also convenient for me as I have moved away from Google services and replaced them with Proton's other applications.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another mullvad recommendation usually don't trust any provider if they can afford and want to do advertisement all over the place. Mullvad let's you pay in coins if you want to be super ghost

[–] Doomguy1364@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah. I've used them for a couple years, I've just been out of the circle for 4-5 months. I also know things can change in the snap of a finger, so I figured I'd ask around. Good to see mullvad is still so highly recommended.

[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Airvpn. I've been using it for years with no problem.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Same here. They have an open source graphical client you can use or they can generate an OpenVPN profile for you. Easy to use, high speeds, good price and they support port forwarding.

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[–] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Im1Random@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

What about the removal of port forwarding?

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windscribe works for me. You can either use their software which is open source or create personal VPN configs on their site to use it with your distros network manager.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

+1 to Mullvad. I only switched to NordVPN because I wanted to use an IP address from a country they have servers on.

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ivpn would be your best choice I think. I'm using proton VPN after mullvad abandoned port forwarding (why oh why did they do that!), but their client for Linux is basic but they are developing a new one at the moment. So port forwarding is a bit difficult to setup (but they do have it).

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry but your wording is a bit confusing. Are you saying that Proton have port forwarding but it's difficult to set up? And is Mullvad developing a new client or is it Proton? And how does IVPN fit into the picture, do they not have any of these limitations as Proton/Mullvad?

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Sorry haven't had coffee yet. So in short:

Proton has port forwarding but difficult to setup on Linux. They are developing a Linux client more feature rich where hopefully oort forwarding will be an ease just like the windows client they have. Ipvns client for linux I think has this feature but needs verification since last time I looked was more than I months ago.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

ProtonVPN came with my Proton plan so I decided to try it. Works great on all my Linux distros, haven't had any problems. Kill switch works too, bind your torrent software of choice to the VPN device and you should be good to go.

Make suse to use one of the P2P specific servers for best performance.

No nasty letters from my ISP yet!

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[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

i've been using mullvad for almost a year with zero issues. fast, cheap and reliable.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was using mullvad for a few months and noticed that a lot of websites I wanted to use were not working for me. Plus they removed port forwarding.

Since then I have been looking for alternatives.

Currently I'm considering -

  1. Airvpn
  2. Azirevpn
  3. PIA

Pia seems to have a really good deal for the 3 year plan. This particular plan is so cheap that other providers prices seem ridiculously high. I have not heard much good things about PIA, so I still havent bought it.

I have generally heard a positive response on Airvpn.

Don't know much about Azirevpn.

Are there any cheap yet "not shitty" vpn providers that you guys suggest ?

[–] ipodvideo@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

PIA is not good. It's owned by Kape Technologies which has done sketchy things in the past.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I switched to airvpn. It gets the job done.

  • Not as fast as mullvad on gigabit but it's good enough
  • the app doesn't look great, but yeah.
  • In general cheaper than mullvad.
  • I have no idea if they are blocked from streaming sites, I only use VPN for torrents.
[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Airvpn with wireguard client prolly. I would just get a seedbox tbh roughly the same price but with more features

https://hostingby.design/app-hosting/

https://ultra.cc/

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[–] Murkhat@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I enjoy ProtonVPN and other services that come with the premium subscription. Proton Pass with email aliases is a very good addition.

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[–] DangerMouse@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mysterium looks pretty interesting, being completely decentralized. All the mainstream VPNs are pretty shady to me, being run in a centralized manner and some heavily marketed by "influencers".

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

ivpn cuz you can pay with Monero

[–] Ziro@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I piggy back on this and ask why NordVPN isn't as highly recommended?

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Some of the things I have written down, are mostly old so if anything is missing or needs correction, please let me know:

They have shady origins, no one knows who they are or where they came from, but they did it with enough funds to quickly expand a large worldwide network of servers and an endless aggressive advertising campaign everywhere.

Misleading advertising, from saying they are the best in the world to adding countdowns to get an offer that restarts when clearing cookies.

They were hacked and tried to hide it for a very, very long time.

Their app on mac pings google every 20 seconds. The android app is riddled with trackers. They use a myriad of integrated google services.

They do not offer open source or audited apps.

If you cancel the auto-renewal of the service, you lose many secondary services and they charge you weeks before the end of the subscription.

In short, they are the kind of company that screams that they don't deserve anyone's trust, and that's a big problem for a VPN. I suggest mullvad, they have a long history of good practices, are privacy activists and are backed by companies like mozilla.

[–] Doomguy1364@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also besides them being extremely shady; I refuse to use any VPN that makes me create an account past a generic account number. If you don't log my data, why do you need me to sign up?

[–] highseas111@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mullvad even accepts an envelope of cash as payment. It’s the only reputable VPN

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 1 year ago

ProtonVPN is quite reputable TBF.

Started off at CERN if I have my info correct (the guys behind the word wide web for example, researchers) with Proton mail.

[–] Ziro@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much; your response was very helpful. I guess I'm canceling my Nord sub now...

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