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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 93 points 8 months ago (8 children)

So how about that COVID business loan money... Oh we ain't getting that back.

How about the auto bailout money.... Not seeing that back either

How about the bank bailouts from 16 years ago. Gotcha, also not getting that back.

You, random student, we will get that 40k back from you if it takes 50 years.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago

‘Member the airline bailout after 9/11? They also “temporarily” increased ticket prices and added checked bag fees (which didn’t used to be a thing at all) to account for the reduced sales. I’m sure those extra profits totally got responsibly invested into the air fleets 🤣

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, that title was a real kick in the urethra. Had me excited until the last word.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I might need to watch a sitcom about good, likeable people where after 30 minutes, everything is going to turn out okay.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

language included in the 2024 Federal Aviation Administration Reauthorization Act that could pave the way toward banning student loan cancellation.

The current draft of the routine bill [bars] executive branch officials from cancelling or forgiving student loans taken out to pursue flight training or education at the undergraduate level, the Debt Collective warned on Wednesday.

It’s like republicans are actively trying to lose in November.

Edit: Also for the folks who didn’t read the bill. Ted Cruz (R) is a cosponsor. Cruz HATES student debt relief. The other sponsors have all supported variations of student debt relief. Just say’n. If were wondering who snuck this into a boring routine bill, I’d start with that guy.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I keep telling folks, but the 118th Congress, the current one, we have so far 46 bills that have made it to law. The only one that really made a big difference was Pub. L 118-5 which ended officially the student loan repayment pause and ended some enhanced benefits of food stamps, SNAP, free lunches, etc.

The other 45 bills have been mostly bumps to the debt ceiling (and of course the small "benefits" Republicans reaped in those), a 250th anniversary of the Marine Corp collection coin (because Congress has the power over the treasury, that's one of the things they do), renaming post offices (Congress has power over the post in the Constitution), some bumps to VA funding, and that's about it.

The small wins they got in avoiding the fiscal cliff aren't exactly massive bangers. I mean compared to say the 117th Congress, the one before this one, that hammered out 362 laws with hits like the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPs act, and so forth. There's just been nothing like any of that in this current Congress.

And the 116th Congress gave us 344 laws, navigated a pandemic, AND got two impeachments out the door.

The Republicans have shown, they've got nothing. We literally have on record them as doing nothing. This has been the least productive Congress in modern history. They have literally set a brand new record for number of times it took to get a speaker and for the least amount of work done EVER.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

The Republicans have shown, they’ve got nothing. We literally have on record them as doing nothing. This has been the least productive Congress in modern history. They have literally set a brand new record for number of times it took to get a speaker and for the least amount of work done EVER.

In other words, by the measure of anti-Americans who hate the Federal government, they're the most successful Congress ever.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

And they'll still win because "woke bad" "GeNoCiDe JoE" and a healthy dose of "the vast majority of Democrats in office are conservative and we hate it."

Trump isn't in office for people to be mad enough to get him out. Apathy will run rampant this time, people are already sick to their stomachs of all things political lately.

I'm not looking forward to project 2025 being implemented... I've always despised organized religious zealots but it looks like they're going to get to steer the ship going forward...

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It’s like republicans are actively trying to lose in November.

Um, did you stop reading at the second sentence?

The Debt Collective named Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), and Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.) as particularly responsible for the language.

I don't have any love for the GOP, but this particular bit of "fuck you" is from neoliberal Democrats. They need replacing. Not with Republicans, but with better Democrats.

[–] june@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Yea I’m calling Cantwell today, this is bullshit. She’s usually pretty solidly on the right side of things but this is ass backwards.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

I think this is Debt Collective being a little loose with what "responsible" means. Both Schumer and Duckworth were involved in mainstreaming the cancellation of debt via executive order.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Procorporate trash. All of them

That. Primary the lot of these fuckers.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It can only go so far before people wake up and start voting properly or heads start rolling, right?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Nah, it's just that the machine has long since learned that they get more votes by attacking "the enemy" than by proposing anything constructive at all. The entire crux of their existence now is about being contrarian and "hurting the people who need it". It's a bit like clickbait. Everyone fucking hates it but it's not going away because it works.

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

People have been pussified to the bone in this country. Government keeps smacking us down and we just stay down. We need the French attitude

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not government. Republican government.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 16 points 8 months ago

to be completely fair, while it's obviously the correct choice between the two, the democratic party isn't exactly a shining beacon of social justice either.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Performative bad governance to prove governance as a concept is bad. But yea, republican works too.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This language was added by Democrats.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Was it? Ted Cruz and Jerry Moran are also cosponsors.

I don’t know how to see who added what to a draft, but this does have bouquet of Cruz to it. If someone told be his office snuck it in, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Feel free to start, pussy

[–] soratoyuki@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Since no one apparently read the article, it's the Democrats doing this.

The Debt Collective named Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), and Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.) as particularly responsible for the language.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

And since no one read the BILL, Ted Cruz is one of the people that cosponsored this. Of the 4 sponsors, Cruz is the only one that is actively campaigning against debt relief. Even Moran, the other Republican cosponsor, has pushed for debt relief for service members.

This smells of classic Cruz. He’s a petty little cunt and would totally sneak something like this into a routine authoritarian bill that no one is proofreading.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1939/all-info

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I find that really unlikely as both Schumer and Duckworth have called for debt cancellation by executive order and even if they were secretly opposed it's a good campaign issue that can be reliably blocked by the filibuster or the courts. I think it's just Debt Collective being a little loose with the definition of "responsible" to prompt outrage and more calls to the people who have power to do something (which is a good thing).

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

My money is on Ted Cruz. This article completely fails to mention that Cruz is one of the sponsors.

Also, Cruz is the ONLY sponsor who hasn’t supported student debt relief in some form, and the only sponsor that campaigns against it in public.

And, least we forget, he’s a sneaky little shit that loves to sneak stuff past people when they’re not paying attention.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Repeat after me, “Corporate, America.”

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The Debt Collective named Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), and Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.) as particularly responsible for the language.

I'd sure like to know how they decided on this list, because at least Schumer and Duckworth were both actively calling on Biden to cancel debt via executive action.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

These neoliberal assholes can get all the way fucked

[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

unless they make college free it should be legal

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The article doesn’t mention this, but Ted Cruz was a cosponsor. Cruz actively campaigns against debt relief. All the other sponsors have put forth and voted for debt relief in the past.

Anyone want to take bets on shady ass Cruz sneaking this in and the other senators not reviewing what their staffers drafted for a boring ass authorization bill?

This would be classic Cruz. Sneaky, petty, cheap political points, and fucks over people who don’t have money. That’s all like all Ted’s favorite stuff.

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