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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 223 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Really happy to see replaceable batteries! It's a wear item and guaranteed to brick your device after a number of years if they aren't replaceable.

[–] Blaubarschmann@feddit.de 129 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Replaceable batteries are coming to the EU in general, at least for portable devices, via the EU Batteries Regulation, which is in force already and requires all portable batteries to be easily removable and replaceable by the end user from 2027

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 87 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

EU has single handedly done more to improve ~~myself~~ my life than my own government with this one law.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

i hope this eu law makes it happen elsewhere, if anything for them to take better advantage of the economy of scale.

and if they dont ill be coveting some eu devices.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

They probably calculate cost saved by economy of scale, vs profit generated from planned obsolescence in other markets.

Might be more profitable to run different SKUs.

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[–] wit@lemmy.world 162 points 7 months ago (34 children)

The comments on this post are entirelly missing the point. Jesus christ lemmy. Yes, we know you like 3.5 mm jacks. That is not the point. The point is that FairPhone launched earphones with ANC with replaceable batteries. This is good!

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We're allowed to want both.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes we are and that's okay we're not against headphone jacks, it's just that this post right here is about wireless earbuds

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[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 79 points 7 months ago (39 children)

Let's not forget this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdL0StldJM

Wired headphones do not have the need for replaceable batteries.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 84 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

And get caught on everything.

I can't be bothered with the inconvenience of wires. Bluetooth quality is good enough for what I need it for, and the convenience of simply putting them on gives me sound is hard to beat.

I have a pair of noise-canceling Bluetooth headphones (not buds) from 2008 that still work. Battery life isn't what it was, but whatever - they work fine for how I use them (as one pair of several). I could replace the battery if I felt like it, just not worth the effort.

But I get that some people prefer the wired for their use-case.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 66 points 7 months ago (12 children)

The simple point is, no one forces you to use wires. Bluetooth has been a thing for decades.

But basically every (yes some exceptions) company that makes phones forced you to use wireless ones.

And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

I agree. I get that they're a business and all but I haven't seen a legitimate explanation for them removing headphone jacks and, like every other manufacturer, simultaneously introducing expensive Bluetooth ones.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (14 children)

The only reason the headphone jack was ever removed is to sell you wireless earbuds.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

People will deny this but this is the only real reason for doing that. The other reason is copying apple, which isn't really another reason as apple removed it for the first reason. Fairphone just went the extra mile to claim that headphones are wasteful, in essence they're making an excuse to cover up their reason why and also trying to force others to do it as well.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A follow-up video "Why I was wrong about fairphone" by Louis Rossmann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAogtqyN22M

Still critical of lack of audio jack but praises FairPhone for including list of all components and board view of where each part is located and a complete schematic. In comparison to other phones manufacturers that's night and day of repair-ability.

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[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Buds can be used without an app, but they really should open source it if they really care about long term sustainability.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Imo its fine if they open source it when they decide to end support. The fact that app has a pristine privacy record is good enough

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 52 points 7 months ago (10 children)

> only support AAC and SBC codecs

> available for 149

Eh.

[–] progandy@feddit.de 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

I had at least hoped for FastStream. (Essentially bidirectional SBC for good quality audio while using the microphone)

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago (38 children)

Please, just give us back the headphone jacks!

Or let us amputate the legs of techbros (they're obsolete in the world of cars and electric wheelchairs).

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago

My 3.5mm AUX says hello

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did you guys notice how many ventors that website shares your data with??

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 22 points 7 months ago

816, oof. The internet is unusable without the proper precautions

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Every time it comes up I must lament the switch to screens too tall to watch content, the decision to remove wired 3.5mm jacks in order to drive sales of wireless headphones, the switch to increasingly fewer physical buttons. No more IR blaster.

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[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If only they shipped to the US...at least, I didn't see that option.

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[–] bluegandalf@lemmy.ml 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] tourist@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Their website has a page that says they "embrace open source"

I couldn't find the source code specifically for their app. Maybe this?

https://github.com/fairphone/android_device_fairphone_FP5

Honestly have no clue what I'm looking at there. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, so who knows.

Otherwise, their app permissions seem pretty reasonable:

• discover and pair nearby Bluetooth devices
• Access Bluetooth settings
• Pair with Bluetooth devices
• connect to paired Bluetooth devices

But yeah, if no open source, that can definitely be a deal-breaker for the market they seem to be targeting.

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[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I'd much prefer a 3.5mm jack

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 36 points 7 months ago (13 children)

There are a plethora of cable earphones.
I don't understand why people complain about wireless.
You're not the target demographic.

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