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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Conservationists: Oh boy, here I go killing again!

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To be fair that's a very important part

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Up until people start asking how you tell the endangered owls from the invasive owls while holding two dead owls

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Rule one of hunting is to identify your target

At least statistically if you shot a bunch of random owls you're most likely to have shot all invasive owls..

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 7 months ago

If there's one thing I know about the hunting community, it's how much they love rules

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what you think hunters are doing, just casually shooting every flying thing lol

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Kill enough until they're both endangered, then it'll be easy

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 7 months ago

That's thinking with patriotism!

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah. Actual conservationists tend to be pretty good shots.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

"Conserve this."

Gunshot

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are they an invasive species?

[–] emuspawn@orbiting.observer 57 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately so. They are an Eastern US species that has been moving ever westward. And they are, in bird law terms, 'huge dicks'. They've been systematically kicking Spotted Owls out of their traditional roosting spots for about a decade now. Spotted Owls are pushovers, so they've been losing breeding ground. And barred owls are not just dicks to other birds, they don't like humans much either.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have we considered that that's their secret to success?

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 8 points 7 months ago

Being dicks sure worked for out well for humans.

Wait a second, humans are driving themselves extinct by emitting too much carbon

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Were they introduced to the west by humans? If this migration is occurring without human intervention this is just evolution doing its thing.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's going to be hard to remove human influence on this equation considering almost everywhere the human influence is present.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 1 points 7 months ago

Agreed, I think a lot of conservationism can even go too far in removing or preventing natural adaptation to the human presence. I was mostly referring to cases where humans can transport species between local ecosystems in a way that wouldn't occur otherwise, which can result in an environmental imbalance that doesn't always fix itself since such changes in range don't usually occur naturally on a scale as large as with, say, the introduction of the brown marmorated stinkbug into North America from Asia.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They only lived east of the Great Plains until we started building cities and planting trees, as they need high, safe perches for nesting and sleeping. When humans created that for them, they expanded westward all the way to California and started competing with (and killing) other species of owl.

So, yes.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago
[–] Windshear@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago
[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So there’s barn owls and barred owls? Who is coming up with these names?

[–] newtraditionalists@beehaw.org 3 points 7 months ago

Scientists have a long seemingly treasured history of trolling everything with their naming of stuff. Not a scientist, so I can't confirm. But from the outside it sure looks like they have a lot of fun with it.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

ITT: the difference between conservationists and "conservationists"

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Owl is back on the menu boys!