Kiss is still cool though : metalmemes

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 87 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Back in the early/mid 90s I had just bought Death Spiritual Healing, Malevolent Creation Ten Commandments, and Nocturnus The Key from a video rental place in my home town.

Me and a buddy listened to all of the metal I just got and decided to see what else we could find. Then we saw it, it had to be the holy grail of heavy metal! There was a motorcycle blasting out of hell and this awesome bat in the background. The album was Bat Out of Hell and the band was so metal their name was Meatloaf! This was going to be soul crushingly heavy…

[–] Damage@feddit.it 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Well, you were lucky anyway, MeatLoaf fucking rules

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[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 months ago

That's a good fucking album though. Bat Out of Hell II: Bat Back Into Hell fucking sucked, though I will admit liking his version of a particular song more than Celine Dion's version.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Bat Out of Hell

Banger album tbh. Plus, not many artists make something like that.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 61 points 7 months ago (6 children)

The incredible irony here is that there are so, so many death and black metal musicians that are genuinely better people than Gene Simmons could ever be. I would trust my kids (note: I do not have kids) around Cannibal Corpse and Cattle Decapitation. I would absolutely not trust Simmons around a teen daughter.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'd totally leave my kids with Ozzy but only because I know Sharon would also be there.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

And if anything happens, he'd probably carry them back to civilization before going into a coma.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, if the house caught on fire she could send them back in to save her paintings.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9fBsRiB3ijs&pp=ygUbc2hhcm9uIG9zYm91cm5lIGhvdXNlIGZpcmUg

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Oh for sure, metal heads are for real wholesome ppl. Metal concerts are probably the lowest in some stupid peer pressure things or macho competitions (who can to the most x stuff, who has the most money, etc), and I absolutely know how many people react to someone needing some help. Maybe because we are a more diverse group related to age? Or because we are everywhere yet nowhere mainstream?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

I was the Metal Blade 25th anniversary show in Chicago--Cattle Decapitation with Goatwhore, Allegaeon, and Novembers Doom--and the lead of Goatwhore stopped the show to point out the guy that had his 10yo kid (with ear muffs!) at the edge of the pit, and told the crowd to be careful and friendly, because that kid was the future of the scene.

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 56 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When your primary motivations are to get laid, get rich, and become popular, in that order, kiss has it down to an art form.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

True. Music isn't the art form they were good at.

And yet are fairly widely recognisable for, em, ~~music I guess~~ that long tongue.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 53 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Rock and roll all nite" is at least somewhat rock-ish. Try "I was made for loving you" that's almost pure disco.

[–] SandLight@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Speaking of which

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[–] drunkosaurus@kbin.social 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Late to the party, everything that needed to be said has been said. Still, let me add my voice to the choir: KISS has never been cool. KISS is the opposite of cool.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This guy things KISS is hot!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Stop spreading negative rumors about people on Lemmy!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

Literally most 80's and 90's "hair metal" bands.

Then there's Steely Dan who goes the opposite direction. He looks and sounds middle of the road, but the lyrics are dark as fuck. Used to only know of him because of jokes about his music being soft as shit, and then I took the time to actually listen to it and I was blown away.

[–] SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Steely Dan isn't a person, it's two main artists and a bunch of other session musicians. The band's name came from a steam-powered dildo named Steely Dan in a book from the early 60's I believe.

They made some fucking amazing music!

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

It's from Naked Lunch, and it's a dildo so strong it could survive even the strongest lesbian's vagina.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Fair. I do the same with Tom Petty, even though I mean Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.

[–] SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I definitely thought Steely Dan was a person when I was younger. Also I wanted an excuse to share the dildo story.

Pink Floyd also could be a person's name. In fact one of their songs even references a record exec mistaking the band's name for a person with the lyrics "Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"

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[–] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago

"My Rival" is my favorite jaunty funk-rock ditty about a guy stalking the man that stole his wife, cornering him in the middle of the desert, and kicking him to death in a strip mall parking lot. And that's not even in the 'Dan Top 10.

And you can't listen to "Godwhacker" and tell me that isn't the basic plot of half a dozen death metal songs, just with more jive and a sicker bassline.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He looks and sounds middle of the road, but the lyrics are dark as fuck

Have you ever listened to the lyrics for Simon and Garfunkel songs? They make the most beautiful and serene music, all about darkness, loneliness, and desperation.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 28 points 7 months ago (3 children)

KISS: when you like the look of black metal but can't handle the sound of black metal.

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[–] TronnaRaps@lemmy.ca 28 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Kiss sucks

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

they've always been musical posers/sellouts. that's sort of their shtick I guess?

to be so gloriously average but pretend to be cool but end up looking fabulously gay.

and their SOUND! sooo ...average.

[–] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was about 12 years old when they were popular, and I was in the market for posers with an average sound.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 7 months ago

Nothing's average to you when you've barely listened to anything. Many of us started their musical journey with bands we don't enjoy anymore because we now know better ones.

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[–] Doublepluskirk@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (5 children)

And now we've got Ghost. It's all cycles, man

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

Scooby doo chase music

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 7 months ago

I was actually surprised when I first heard Ghost, it was so calm it could almost work as elevator music. You'd never expect that from their looks

[–] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

They're more in the realm of like... Stoner Rock, Psychedelic Doom and Smooth rock tbh with a large emphasis on Satanist Imagery and gospel. I fuck with that. More like Candlemass type Doom metal than like Stormkeep Doom Metal.

KISS on the other hand was like "Hey kids, we heard you like corpse paint, crazy guitar riffs and meaningful lyrics so we made the opposite for your mothers to listen to."

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago

Not at all sure Kiss is still cool

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

that pedo band?

Christine Sixteen:

don't usually say things like this to girls your age
But when I saw you coming out of school that day
That day I knew, I knew
I've got to have you, I've got to have you

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yikes! I don't stand by my title for this post.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 28 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If you pay attention, lyrics about sex with minors was a common theme from the 50s (and earlier) to the 90s (and later).

"I get it up for the touch of the younger kind" ~ my Sharona - the knack, 1979

"She was just 17, if you know what I mean" ~ I saw her standing there - the Beatles, 1963

Girl, you'll be a woman soon. Neil diamond

Don't stand so close to me. The police

Sweet little sixteen. Chuck Berry

Etc.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 19 points 7 months ago

"Well I don't care if you're just thirteen, You look too good to be true" Ted Nugent - Jailbait

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's worth noting that Paul McCartney was only 21 and George Harrison only 20 in 1963. That's a group of guys who hadn't really matured much since they never had to face any of the challenges that we did at that age, and were constantly doted upon. I'm not excusing their lyrics, I'm just saying 17 and 20 (only 3 years apart) is not as creepy as shit like old ass Ted Nugent singing about 13 year old girls. That shit is criminal, and gross.

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[–] Obonga@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago

It is creepy, not pedophile.

I know for most people this seems like hair splitting but there is a stark contrast between beeing attracted to a 16 year old (which only based on physical appearance is very normal) and being attracted to prepubescent people.

Acting on attractions is a whole different book.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I felt the same thing when I went to check out my parent's version of a rebellious rock band "the rolling stones"

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[–] proper@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Knights In Satans Service?

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If the only goal of Satan's servants is merchandise and weak music, then yes.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Best thing about KISS is the game (Psycho Circus). And Im not saying it's a good game, tho it's atmospheric.

(Something mid way between Blood 2 and Painkiller)

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

"I met a girl and I really think she liked me"

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Seen them twice and still love their Unplugged gig.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Paul Stanley KISS songs are cool. The rest, meh.

Off the top of my head, see: Detroit Rock City and Strutter.

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