Some people have the idea that a private business is going to break the law or defy their governments requests for them. That’s completely deluded, nobody would ever open willingly expose themself to that kind of risk. No organization is going to let themselves go on trial for $15/month. It seems we have a binary idea of privacy, when the reality is much more complex.

The best take on here. The reasonable one that still highlights how much better it is compared to other mainstream services

Remember that time I think it was Signal got a warrant for all data they had on a user and literally all the data they had was account name, creation date, and last login date? That was funny.

Well, in the US, FISA warrants are technically legal, too.

That second part. The 'e' in email stands for evidence.

It's really difficult if not impossible to be private with services you can't trust... suppose you were to not trust Tor. How can you prove it to be private if you can't trust anything they say or share? I think it's almost impossible, isn't it?

You're going to have to put trust somewhere if you want to be private, whether it's your device's hardware, software, ISP or other...

They have to, because they had the data they have to obey lawful requests.

But the fault is still theirs. They architected a system where they have access to data that will endanger people. They deliberately disincentivize signing up via the onion network. They require two-factor verification of identity for most signups. They're deliberately making sure they have the data to expose people.

If they truly cared they would have architectured a system that was as close to zero knowledge as possible. Were they insured they never had access to personal data. I.e. Tor sign ups possible, let people pay with Monero, never require identity verification.