The issue here is the police having anything to do with digital forensics...this should have been outsourced to a group that knows how to detect these things and not some cop that barely knows the traffic laws in his own state.
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In my experience ops don't know shit. It's all about "gut feelings". "Well "his feels illegal so I'm gonna arrest them and if I'm wrong I get to sit at my desk all day or go on a paid vacation" is how it is.
I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped by cops for riding my bicycle on the road. Literally to the point where I have a laminated card I keep in my wallet with the relevant laws saying "this bike is illegal on a sidewalk and cars must give way on the road"
I've had a few threaten to arrest me "for being a piece of shit" or "for wasting my time" like I'm the one who made them stop...
I've been stopped because I "fit a description" multiple times, the "description" being "man on a bike" with nothing else, supposedly.
I've been stopped for speeding in a school zone before, and if it wouldn't have been a waste of time, I'd have let it go to court and showed my helmet camera video that clearly shows my phone GPS as well as cycling computer (glorified speedometer) readout that clearly shows I was well under 25. Granted I've gone 49 in a 45 for about 3 seconds before I realized one rock and I'm dead and slowed down, there's 0 chance of me speeding past 20 on flat ground unless I'm trying to set a personal best.
I've been stopped for "being a road hazard", not having enough reflective things, having "too many lights" (one forward flasher, one steady, and one rear/one steady rear light), not signaling "and hand signals don't count anymore" lol OK...
Pretty much whatever they feel like stopping you for, they'll stop you and come up with a half-assed excuse later. They don't know the laws they enforce, and if they did, they would be considered a liability to other cops and quickly be ejected.
Jesus, where do you live so I can never go there?
Theres a reason so many astronauts come from here... They want to leave so bad, they fled the planet.
Ah, America. Yeah that tracks. ;)
Your state at least has a great air museum in Dayton to encourage more of those Astronauts.
No, op is assuming you're American. They mean Ohio specifically.
Actually, I was assuming more people have heard the joke "more astronauts have come from Ohio because they're fleeing the state" more than assuming "this person is American"
But yeah, Ohio. People meme on it being boring and full of cow farms and corn fields for a reason.
Also occasionally our rivers catch on fire and trains get a bit tipsy.
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What color is your skin?
Good gravy. Glad I live in Seattle. They are finally make a few physically separated bike lanes instead of just painting a bike symbol on the side of the road.
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Some PDs do have their own digital forensics units. It isn't a task handed to patrolmen
It's incredibly rare a patrolman has access to DF tools at all.
They aren't given to patrolmen. They have dedicated and specially trained units. Otherwise the evidence can be nullified.
Source: have worked in digital forensics.
There are several agencies that have some patrolmen doing on-scene digital forensics in the US.
Source: I currently work in digital forensics and have trained patrolmen.
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Either a woman with no background in digital technology had made a sophisticated deepfake on her iPhone 8, or a 16-year-old had panicked and lied to her mother about vaping, or mother and daughter had decided together to explain away behaviour they knew would get Madi in trouble, with an elaborate story about digital manipulation. The police chose to believe the first explanation.
“They never understood deepfakes, and the implications of giving a press conference scaring people into thinking someone could take an image and turn it into something else so easily,” Birch says. “I don’t think they ever thought this thing would spread like wildfire and become a worldwide phenomenon.”
A small police force made a mistake that became too big to fix. “Once it blew up, the police couldn’t extricate themselves without losing face.”
As always, ACAB.
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And then there was this ...
These would be the last public comments (Officer Matthew) Reiss made about the case. On 26 May 2021 he was arrested on suspicion of possessing images of child sexual abuse. Two images had been uploaded to his Gmail account, and detectives had traced them to his IP address. When they raided his home and seized his electronic devices, they found more than 1,700 images and videos depicting children, including 84 of toddlers and infants. Reiss pleaded guilty in March 2022, and was later sentenced to 11 and a half to 23 months in jail. To use Weintraub’s language, if anyone was “preying on juveniles”, it was the police officer who led the investigation.
Only 1-2 years for possessing literally hundreds of CP images and videos? What the fuck? I mean I guess he didn't harm anyone directly (as far as we know) but still, come on.
I could of sworn I've seen other CSM PDF files getting over a decade in jail. Pays off to be a criminal cop.
Nah that's a pretty light sentence, he definitely got some leniency because he's fuzz.
With that number of images he very likely paid for some and thereby directly contributed to abuse of children.
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Deepfake fake news story aside, at the crux of this story is a girl or parent jealous of Madi's position on the team and was trying to tattle to get her kicked off the team. This story getting ignored was the best result. The girl was 16 and she was caught vaping. Kids are going to do shit they shouldn't and any hard and fast rule on vices like this is only going to be abused and cause more damage in the long term.
I'm more concerned about this loser parent going around stalking 16 year olds being 16 year olds.
This whole story certainly inspires one to despise technology, however.
Absolutely.
"Helicopter Karen tries to snitch on kids for vaping, but gets fucked by the police instead".
I sincerely hope everyone involved comes out worse for wear.
For real, that's a story in itself. And then Madi's old man knows some guys on the force so they say it's fake, that's story two. I'm honestly more interested in story one, because some loser is out here stalking this 16-year-old girl so they can screw her shit up, presumably out of jealousy.
My kids will play sports and dance and do whatever. I have no interest in pushing them towards very serious leagues, because time and again the people involved in them have shown they are all losers. My kids will not be professional athletes, we are not particularly tall or strong or fast, but they can do well, be healthy, and make friends, that's about all I want from it.
Considering the woman: A) is legally barred from discussing the other families, and B) denies having sent anything to anyone, I think you might be making some pretty broad assumptions. What we do know is that the videos and photos weren’t faked, and they were evidence of misconduct by the other girls, who as of yet have experienced zero consequences and in at least one case may have benefited from the case going viral.
Oh no, a teenager faces zero consequences for vaping. We are doomed! /s
That being said, you are right that the allegations should not be taken as facts, especially considering they came from the same source as those deepfake lies.
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“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” - Orwell, 1984
I guess I can see why this is being posted, but if you are entering this era thinking that because you've seen a video of something that it must have happened...well, you haven't been paying much attention and opening yourself up to being easily manipulated.
Honestly, this is what I consider to be the clear danger of generative "AI". We've basically gone several steps backward toward a world where we can't prove something happened because recording technology doesn't exist because it can be faked well enough and easily enough to cast doubt on any recording.
Sure, experts can analyze it and deem it legit or not legit but for the average person its becoming harder and harder to tell. Word spreads fast, and it's been demonstrated that lies spread faster than their corrections by orders of magnitude. All it takes is for something to "go viral" or someone with authority to lazily confirm or deny that something is real/fake and the public at large loses touch with reality.
This plus the insane misinformation campaigns and those that cry "fake news" whenever the news contains information they don't like... I feel like truth and reality are becoming unfashionable.
Sure, experts can analyze it and deem it legit or not legit but for the average person its becoming harder and harder to tell.
Frankly, I think that's exactly what will also be its downfall in such cases. At a certain amount of exposure of such material, people will stop caring, because of how common it will be. The larger issue is not how to tell what's fake, but how to tell what's true. Large players, such as governments or corporations, can and will abuse this tech for whatever narrative they need.
Confirmation bias just leads people to believe whatever confirms their beliefs. Now we can give anyone anything they need to confirm their beliefs.
This article took way too long to get to the fact that this was a massive police fuckup.
Fuck ups are unintentional. They did this shit on purpose
imagine caring this much about what teens do.
Jesus christ your life must be so boring. I get wanting to be a good influence and stuff but like holy shit dude.
If you don't care about what teenagers do, you end up with a country full of twats.
If you haven't noticed it's not the teenagers that are giant twats it's the fucking boomers wanting us to all be christo-fascists. They literally elected, "grab her by the pussy" guy.
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The laws should have never gotten involved except in the instance with the bathing suit.
Please people, handle your petty grievances about puritanical bullshit without involving the violent gang known as police officers.
Did that guy who got arrested for making deep fakes that implicated a school official in corription get out yet or will he have to languish for years before it gets overturned?
They have logs of him using the school’s network to visit ai audio generators, so that case will probably stick…
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What the fuck kind of narc sent it to her coaches.
I used to have a coworker whose daughter was in competitive cheer. It's like any youth competition -- the parents can lose their goddamn minds over it. If there was a chance somebody could DQ a competing team, or perhaps open up a spot on a team by narcing on one of the current members, somebody is gonna do it.
The accusations are the punishment. It's used all over the place.
Great digital forensic team. Dipshits.
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