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[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 183 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I have a prediction: Airlines won't ackowlege that personal trackers as an effective means to track luggage becuase they're trying to figure out how to force you to buy their own trackers.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 162 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Frankly I’m trying to figure out how a system that even allows for luggage to be lost without any accountability is allowed to exist in two thousand twenty fucking three

[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

Lobbying is easy: "we'll give you free first class flights if you don't pass any laws against us"

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Cause somehow we've been convinced that if something somehow works once, in one specific scenario - then it must in its entirety be ok for all eternity

(as long as it makes money of course lol)

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy: doing so would cost too much money, for not enough profit gain.

Aka, there isn't enough competition between airlines

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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 38 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm still trying to figure out why they don't already use trackers. RFID tags are dirt cheap and it's 20 years old technology. They already have a process where they add barcode stickers at checkin, slap some RFID in there too.

[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They certainly can and do use a tracking system.

I get notifications from Delta every time my bag moves once it's checked in - loaded, unloaded, what pickup.

There's nothing really wrong with barcodes. NFC/RFID would be a logical upgrade though, and just has to integrate into the existing system.

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[–] youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 144 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Happened on a recent flight with me. Company told us luggage was still on the origin airport, someone had an air tag and vehemently asked them to do a double check, and they miraculously found where it was supposed to be in the first place..

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 98 points 1 year ago (16 children)

On a recent trip we just went up to the youngest looking baggage worker, showed them, asked very nicely, and they walked back and found it. Tipped em 20 bucks for 5 minutes of effort. They were super nice.

The airline was less than helpful, actively saying the bag was lost.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Take photos of your luggage before checking them. That way you can show the employees exactly what they’re looking for.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luckily our bag was a very distinctive color with a large brand logo but yep

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Ugly luggage unite!!

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[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Happened to me on a recent trip to a country well known for crime.

Your luggage is lost sir, you’ll have to fill in a form.

My luggage is about 15m away behind that wall. Here, see this map. Go get it.

10 min later: Oh your luggage is here sir. Terribly sorry.

Not sure if incompetence or shenanigans but I got my luggage back.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 80 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I just wish airtags didn't require an apple device. Is there even an alternative to these tiny little things?

[–] GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsung has its own "Smart Tags". They should be better than Tile, since they rely on the Galaxy network and many more people have Samsung phones than Tile devices, but it'd be nice if Google released one compatible with all Android devices, instead of being stupidly tied to a specific brand.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google announced just that earlier in the year; a tracking platform backed by any device with Google Play Services. A number of companies have announced support - including Tile, Pebblebee and Chipolo - but in typical Google fashion it's not launched yet.

[–] sgtlighttree@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but in typical Google fashion it's not launched yet.

And is likely to get shut down in a year or two...

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[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tile is the closest but it has a much smaller user base since it depends on people having the tile app installed. Airtags pickup on most iphones since most people have "Find My" enabled.

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

Tile is garbage. I had multiple die without warning or notification, so I switched to airtags even though I have to track those with my iPad.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're a tinkerer there's a project called OpenHaystack that lets you make your own tags that leech off Apple's Find My network. I've got a couple dozen of them at this point and they work flawlessly.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a tinkerer but I have terrible tech skills. Do you think a project like that is beginner friendly?

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It will take a while, but once google launches its Find my device network. You will have plenty of alternatives that work on android.

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[–] outplayed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Chippolo is making one for Google's find my network that works just like Apple's network. Can't comment on the tracker itself because it's a preorder, but theoretically it could be just as strong with the amount of Android devices around

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are standalone GPS trackers that report its location via a cellular connection. Typically they are used to track pets and the elderly in case they get lost, you might be able to find them relatively cheap at pet supply stores, but they do require a continuous paid subscription to work. Though they do have the benefit of working anywhere that has a cellular connection without relying on having specific brands of devices nearby.

If you don't need remote tracking, GPS trackers that only log to internal memory also exist. Those don't require a subscription because they only need to listen for GPS signals and not transmit.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

Airlines are a disgrace to the gift of flight.

Nice job, you took human flight, something once hailed as breaking the chains imposed on our species by the gods above, and in the name of profit made it the most tedious and insufferable thing imaginable.

People chased the lowest fares possible too though. "Hey, I can save $5 by sitting in this even tinier space where they charge for taking a piss! I can hold it for 3 hours."

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[–] BigVault@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On my way home from Spain as I type this, AirTags in luggage as always.

Haven’t had to rely on them at all due to loss luckily but I do like having them in our luggage.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Fortune favors the prepared. Better to have them in your luggage and never need them than to need them and not have them.

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Of Course, it's company policy to never imply ownership in the event of a dildo, we have to use the indefinite article "a" dildo, never "your" dildo.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my iPhone was telling me that my AirTag was showing [the luggage] live in Toronto," said Sih. "It would update every few minutes when it would ping off someone's phone."

The way this works creeps me out

[–] RajaGila@feddit.nl 28 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It's not that as bad as it seems. The way it is set up is actually very privacy-minded with the use of cryptography. I would encourage you to read more about this.

The primary safety concern is stalking. For example when a stalker puts an AirTag on your belongings or vehicle. iPhones can detect unknown airtags moving with you. Android devices should gain this capability in the future.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We had some issues with sensitive equipment being left behind at people's homes, so someone suggested putting airtags in the cases so we could easily find them. There was an email explaining this was being done.

Cue 2 weeks of employees getting "airtag stalking notifications" on their phones and asking WTF was going on.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I don't think it is "lying", it sounds like their tracking system is broken. No one is talking to Air Canada and updating the system so when they check it it still says DC.

Representatives from both United Airlines and Air Canada promised to attend to the luggage and get it to him as soon as possible. "Unfortunately," says Sih, "no one did."

Well that is just poor service.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Seems weird to describe this as lying—does the author think that UA is deliberately depriving this person of his luggage? It seems obvious that their system for tracking luggage is flawed and showing incorrect information. I can’t imagine any scenario where this would be intentional.

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