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cross-posted from: https://yall.theatl.social/post/2717798

Trump says he is open to restrictions on contraception. His campaign says he misspoke

From WABE Politics News:

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he was open to supporting regulations on contraception and that his campaign would release a policy on the issue “very shortly.” The comments, […]

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 117 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Imagine being a republican woman, wtf kind of dumb shit is that.

[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 5 months ago (6 children)

This shit sucks for men too. I don't understand why anyone is against contraception.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don’t understand why anyone is against contraception.

Its a great way to "trap" someone who you fear is going to leave you because you're a slacker working a dead end job and you know they can do better if they could see the reality of the situation.

Funny enough, its also why they're against no-fault divorces.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

When the birth control pill was first released, people opposed it by claiming that women would just take trains of lovers while their husband was at work, since there was no longer the risk of pregnancy.

That was 64 years and many of those people became politicians and church leaders or passed their shitty views down to their shitty children.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like projection, doesn't it? No risk of pregnancy, I'll bang as many women/men as I have time for...

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Them banging people doesn't upset them, only that their wives and daughters might do the same.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

evangelicals are against it cause they dont want women to have options.

They want women to pump out tiny soldiers of christ who will grow up indoctrinated to take seats of government, starting at the local, and working their way up to state and federal, until the christofascist extremists control all aspects of government, with the power and authority to brutally put down any "non-believer" I.E. anyone that is critical of their behavior or actions.

[–] proper@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

they need more dumbasses to make more dumbass voters.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

There's far right assholes who think the solution to falling birth rates is to go full Ceaușescu.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 20 points 5 months ago

Hurting people you don't like is worth more to them than their own pain.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 88 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was joking. Or maybe locker room talk. We’ll get back to you.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you support what he said? Ok then yes, he said that.

How about you? Do you support what he said? No? Ok then no, he didn't say that.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How about you? Do you support what he said? No? Ok then no, he didn’t say that.

"Ok, so he did say that, but that's not what he really meant."

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 5 months ago

He tells it like it is!

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 46 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Trump is such an obvious con-man that it frustrates me to no end that he continues to get away with it and people cover for him. Look at what he said:

“We’re looking at that and I’m going to have a policy on that very shortly”

When pressed he said:

“Things really do have a lot to do with the states, and some states are going to have different policy than others”

He literally doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about! He's just basically smiling and nodding - and this dumbass was president and is trying to be president again.

[–] Daze@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just saw this on the news passing by and had the same thoughts. How does anybody not see that he literally has nothing? He has no idea what to say unless his handlers are in his ears. This man couldn't even be in charge of the local dump.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's crazy is that the news treat this as if he's staying a serious policy instead of calling it what it is. They phrase it as "Trump says he's open to restrictions on contraception". They should be saying "Trump clearly flounders and doesn't know what contraception means."

This man does not have a single serious policy, other than his own personal goals.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Its not crazy, its money.

If they point out how obviously senile and empty headed he is, they lose 40+% of their audience because they value feels over reals and can't admit that their soiled diaper daddy needs to be given the (political) old yeller treatment.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

C'mon, man. "Contraception" is a whole 4-syllable word. Who are you to gatekeep the office of presidency behind understanding such complex words. Donald J Trump is an honest man who tells it like it is, and it's not like he's ever bragged about being good at words. /s

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Remember that scene in Chicago, where Roxy Hart was sitting on Billy Flynn's lap and they sang?

Basically like that.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah his strategy was and still very much is to just say things, see how people react, and if there's enough applause it becomes policy and if there is enough backlash then it's walked back and he said he misspoke and then never talks about the issue again.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Never underestimate the power of a great deal of very stupid people. The sad thing is that a lot of people don't like it that others are smarter/more experienced and more competent than them. As a general rule, they tend to be Republicans. That's why you see Republican politicians with an Ivy League education pretending to be morons that are "salt of the Earth". They know full well their base is filled with morons seething over the notion that other people are smarter than they are, have more education, etc...

So the fact that Ronald McDonald is most likely an actual total moron who knows next to nothing is considered "authentic" to the base.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

We still waiting for his tremendous healthcare plan that’s coming in two weeks

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not a MAGA person by any means but he sounds pretty coherent to me. They're going to leave it to the states.

Some states will have civil rights, while others will have unnecessary cruelty. Just like Jesus would have wanted.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some states will have civil rights,

Doesn't seem to me like the fascists will be content at leaving it like that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Indeed. They are very butthurt right now about the uppity wimmenz in their Gilead states thinking they have the right to go to a free state to have an abortion.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The reality is that the plan is to appoint somebody to head the DOJ who will both enforce the Comstock act, and classify birth control as "abortion causing materials."

The Comstock act makes it illegal to "mail" abortion causing materials, which could be interrupted to include medical supplies used in abortions, birth control, the Plan B pill, possibly even other medications that have the mere potential to cause miscarriage. This would make it nearly impossible to perform abortions or access birth control in states where they are still legal, all while still technically adhering to the holy "state's rights" scripture.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago

His campaign misspoke if they think he wants to be corrected.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Reporter: “Do you support lifting restrictions on infanticide?”

Trump: “We’re looking at that and I’m going to have a policy on that very shortly,”

…because he’s a fucking moron and couldn’t figure out how to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions on heel…

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Says the guy that raw dogs porn stars.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Well yes. His position is confusing, because these folks want to fuck their mistresses/side-pieces/prostitutes consequence free, but also want to keep their wives trapped at home and to punish “sluts.”

Similarly, folks like Lindsey Graham and Ryan Walters want to fuck dudes on the side, but want to still consider themselves superior to the “removeds.”

These men have a sexuality based solely on real control and power, nothing resembling normal human sexual desires.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Whoop there it is.

[–] soba@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It must be confusing for trump. The evangelicals want women to be slaves trapped in terrible marriages with no reproductive rights, while the slightly saner ones are telling him, "Noo, that is unpopular with everyone else! Just pretend to be a moderate on these issues!" But his brain is mush so he just parrots whoever spoke to him most recently.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 15 points 5 months ago

"very shortly" being the time it takes for a donor to tell his campaign managers what his policy is supposed to be.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

As if the campaign team will be responsible for anything after the election... when not even real politicians care

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If he said he wasn't, they'd be saying the same thing. There is not enough profanity in the english language for them.

[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

His cult will only hear what he said. The media will ignore it because the campaign said the opposite. And the electorate who don't pay attention won't have a clue what's coming if trump and project 2025 take over the government.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Next up, Trump says he is open to restrictions on the ability of leftists and racial minorities to own businesses or property. His campaign says he misspoke, while Trump holds a press conference on how contraceptives are the work of the devil and also makes a "joke" about concentration camps.