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[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"farmer works with fox to coordinate safe escape for chickens"

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

😮

Next you are going to tell me Hamas is a pathetic rag tag group of resistance fighters that could never even hope of fighting a “war” against Israel (like how, would they beat fighter jets and some of the most advanced main battle tanks in the world with some assault rifles, rpgs and maybeeeee some IEDs?).

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It would be one thing if the resistance fighters had any amount of territory to hide in, but Gaza is essentially an open air prison that takes an f16 all of probably a minute and a half to fly over on afterburners, there is simply no way for Hamas to really even take the first step of fighting a traditional war with Israel since one must concentrate their troops to win a traditional war, and Hamas doing so in any numbers would lead to near instant and complete obliteration by the hands of Israel fighter bombers, artillery, or troops backed by main battle tanks.

This is not a war, this is a genocide of the Palestinian people.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago

I think you may have missed their actual point.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago (3 children)

maybe handing this shit directly to the people bombing infants in hospitals makes clear its all a publicity stunt

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Last time someone tried to deliver some aid, the IDF bombed them because they thought they were Hamas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Central_Kitchen_aid_convoy_attack

The IDF fired three missiles in five minutes at three of the WCK's cars, with some survivors of the first strike boarding the second car, which was minutes later hit by a second missile, and some survivors of the second strike boarding the third car, which was in turn struck by a third missile.[3] All seven aid workers were killed

But the IDF said sorry we were thinking it was Hamas so again the west is ok with that

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Worth noting that the “they thought they were Hamas” part is… Well… Not correct. WCK coordinated the shipment directly with the IDF. The IDF knew exactly where the trucks were, and what they were carrying. And then the IDF bombed them anyways, because they’re manufacturing a famine to further the genocide. And allowing food aid to enter would disrupt their planned famine.

Bombing the trucks was a message for any other groups that may have considered sending humanitarian aid: “Try to help Palestinians, and we’ll kill you. Even if we know who you are, and you clear it with us ahead of time. We’ll blame Hamas and get away with it, and your death will be meaningless.” And it worked… The truck bombings had a chilling effect on any future aid that was planned, because the IDF has shown that they can and will get away with it.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Not quite the same type, and even less of it is getting to it's intended target.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Working with Israel to find safe routes:

UN: we could deliver aid to the sick dying children here.

Israel: Cant. We are bombing there.

America: This is ok.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This pier has got to be one of the most expensive examples of virtue signaling ever. Since Israel controls the land that the pier connects to, aid that comes off this pier would always get the exact same treatment as aid that hits an Israeli overland checkpoint, the pier is a pointless + very costly edifice.

Imo the only reason that it exists is so that the USA government can claim to be helping by throwing money at the problem, without actually doing anything about the problem.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same with the airdrops. They dropped food for 40k people, lasting them 1 day, a couple of times. Gaza has 2 million people. Just a token gesture.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Better then no aid I guess, especially if you know where people are most hungry.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, "the ocean" is where they are most hungry. You do know people died trying to get the aid since it drifted from shore and they were desperate, right? Deaths which could be prevented by opening crossings and driving the necessary aid in

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

$320 million

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It was never meant to, as it would interfere with Israel's use of Starvation as a cheap Final Solution for Gaza.

It was only ever meant to generate the right kind of images on TV in order to sway enough Progressives to keep voting for Biden so that he wins the upcoming election.

The whole thing is pretty much like a slum landlord loudly "giving money to Charity" whilst squeezing large numbers of poor tenants who have no other options with expensive rents and bad conditions: a symbolic "positive" action propagandized very loudly while far vaster negative actions are kept as much as possible quiet, so that for outside observers - who judge the scope of those actions by what they see rather than what is actually happenning - the total looks like positive and they conclude this is a good person.

Of course, as per the track record of the American and Israeli propaganda so far, the failure of something which was always meant to fail is, just like every single bad action by Israel without exception, blamed on Hamas.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Do you mean to tell me that the guy who spent his entire decades-long career unwaveringly supporting the apartheid state currently committing genocide, who sent them billions of dollars of military equipment while they were performing a genocide, who redefined criticism of the government committing said genocide as hate speech, who threatened international courts for trying to hold the genocidal country accountable - are you telling me that person failed to provide an ounce of material support to the people being genocided? No way. I mean, when was the last time an American politician said something that was purely performative?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Of course not. We saw the same thing in darfur. The warlords create a famine to get aid shipments and then use the aid shipments to feed their soldiers.

Obviously we still need to do everything we can to feed Gaza, but there needs to be an understanding wrapped into that that Hamas are not freedom fighters. Freedom fighters do not use starvation of the people they seek to liberate as a propaganda weapon.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

there needs to be an understanding wrapped into that that Hamas are not freedom fighters. Freedom fighters do not use starvation of the people

Israel is perpetuating the starvation. But you know that.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

He knows it but ofc he pretends not to

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Several desperate Gazans intercepted trucks delivering aid from the pier over the weekend, leading the UN to suspend the delivery operations until the logistical challenges are resolved.

The US is working with Israel and the United Nations to establish “alternative routes” for the safe delivery of the 569 tons of aid transported to Gaza since last week, Pentagon spokesperson Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder said on Tuesday.

Asked whether any of the aid has been delivered to the people of Gaza, Ryder said, “As of today, I do not believe so.” He added that aid had been held in an assembly area on shore, but as of Tuesday had begun getting moved to warehouses for distribution throughout Gaza as alternative routes have been established.

Ahh yes, blame it on "warlords" and blame it on Hamas instead of acknowledging the deliberate starvation of people to result in people desperate for food. Great way to distract from the perpetrator of starvation, which is Israel who btw. could still end this famine today, by allowing in all aid and stop burning aid trucks.

[–] Space_Racer@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Kind of reminds me of Mogadishu with supply handouts. Warlords just take everything.

[–] ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

God forbid it turns into something like this:

[–] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh man, I just love it how you guys downvote these propaganda faschists into oblivion. They think Lemmy is like FB, where they can get together and push their BS onto us, distracting from the real problem that they try to hide.

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[–] Delonix@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The chosen people doing gods work, its what he clearly would have wanted..

"I say unto thee... take thy aid meant for the sick, the destitute, the broken.. and yeet it into thy sea 🤷‍♂️"

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