Putin is welcome to cease firing any time he likes.
this post was submitted on 24 May 2024
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Putin is welcome to cease firing and get his army back on the other side of the fucking border any time he likes.
Yup, im pretty sure a ceasefire on the 2022 borders was possible any time Putin wanted.
I'm not so sure that's the case anymore.
Ukraine wants Crimea back.
Maybe really early on in the war that was possible, but it's going to be a harder sell now.
This is happening at a time when Russian armor and infantry are being stalled at the north, south, and eastern fronts.
This is also happening at a time when American munitions are about to be loaded into Ukraine. (June-July.)
This is also happening as Ukraine is asking the US if they can use these Munitions inside Russia.
Yeah real shocking he wants a pause now that the Washington money firehose is back on full spray.
Don't forget F-16 squadrons finishing training and getting online any day now...
The loss of Russian A-50 AWACS mean the air war is going to be hot this summer.
Hopefully the F-16s can take down the GPS jammers.
Putin also doesn't recognize Zelensky as the leader now that Ukraine hasn't had the possibility of doing their next election, so it's a mystery who is Russia's puppet they're ready to negotiate with.
There are also upcoming negotiations in Switzerland, which Russia might want to sidetrack with a rearming "truce"
Better idea. Take his troops back to Russia.
best idea: take his troops back to Russia and then take his butt to a tall bridge and jump.
this may be a signal that Russia is reaching the limit of its ability to sustain the war and he's trying to grab a hold of what little land he tenuously holds right now. Putin wants to wrap it up before they start to lose ground again.
I wouldn’t be so sure. It’s likely that Russia sees a temporary ceasefire as a way to more efficiently regroup its army and continue the invasion. It would also give Ukraine a little bit of time to do the same, but given the political red tape in the west, it’s unlikely they would be able to be as efficient or effective
Agreed, time is on the Russian side. A ceasefire, esp until Trump gets reelected, or doesn't, and causes a civil war, gives him space to regroup and rearm with Indian and Chinese gear.
Either way the US will be chaotic after the election and funding a foreign war may not be a thing, esp. if there is a domestic insurgency. And Europe still doesn't have what it takes, and probably won't, to meet any needs.
Appeasement never works with dictators.
Just an ugly ploy to allow his cronies in the EU to be able to say that Russia offered a ceasefire.
Noone is falling for this.
If they took it, I bet there would be a ceasefire... for like 6 months or a year. Just enough time for Russia to manufacture and restock more weapons and maybe actually train their troops.
For sure, the direct tactical gains would be massive.
Also, in the EU we have elections coming up. The right wing parties and Euro sceptics are already on a plus.. so giving them another talking point is potentially even more valuable.. if this stifles support for Ukraine.
And trying to remove sanctions.
Fuck Putin and the Kremlin.
Even the premise of a ceasefire is so insulting. It would be agreeing that the invasion-pushed borders are valid enough to accept for a day, and by that, Ukraine would take the first step to agreeing they could accept them for a hundred days, a thousand... Every additional day strengthening the appearance of legitimacy. Russia needs to be broken to understand, there's no negotiation that would work.
Like all of Putin's games, if you agree to play, you've already lost.
Unfortunately for Russians, Ukraine is no longer interested in a ceasefire. Western munitions are about to drop, it's gonna be a rainy summer
Ukraine has no interest in a ceasefire that causes them to lose territory to the Russian invaders.
And rightfully so.
Ok. Leave.
"stop fighting so we can kill you quicker" basically.
To let us reconstitute our army groups and restock supplies. In order to show our good faith we will withdraw troops from the northern costly tactical mistake.
Yeah, but the thing is, Ukraine isn't ready to negotiate, and Biden will be President for at least another 7 months.
Until then perhaps over 100 000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers will die, thanks to Putin.
This war isn't helping the demographics of either country.
While there might be a sudden (and long overdue) influx of material heading Ukraine's way my understanding is that they've been attritioned out of a lot of their fighting capability due to the long (fuck you GOP) drought of munitions. Russia has a lot more manpower to throw at the war and has been actively recruiting dumb foreigners (or kidnapping foreigners) along with using prison labor to supplement their fighting force.
Russia has about 3.5x the manpower, and IIUC, Ukraine might start using convicts. Maybe they might use some of that aid to increase pay and maybe get their own foreigners.
This history of Russia shows a willingness to throw bodies into the meatgrinder to achieve military objectives. While there are trained and professional forces fighting on the Russian side of this conflict, the lines have also been populated with conscripts, political dissidents, ethnic minorities, prisoners, and any other "human resources" that Putin doesn't mind sacrificing. I doubt he is worried about troop strength.
He's absolutely worried about troop strength. Besides the fact that Russia is already getting screwed by a demographic crunch regardless of this war, Putin's last mobilization was deeply unpopular.
The problem might not be so much the strength of the troops as much as their morale.
AFAIK, Russian troop strength might have been good in February 1917.
Kiev should send him a cyanide pill and a German luger as their ceasefire proposal.
Putin's been saying this for forever... Basically ever since the doomed peace negotiations in 2022.
Zelensky won't accept a peace without retaking Crimea and Putin won't accept a peace that relinquishes current territorial gains.
We're at an impasse until someone cracks. If Zaluzhny hadn't been exiled to Britain, maybe things would be different.