But Biden is as bad as Trump according to some here. Yeah, ok.
this post was submitted on 27 May 2024
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Of course Trump is worse.
Now let's not pretend that the Democratic Party has any love at all for these protestors. Let's not pretend that the prevailing sentiment in this community isn't that these protestors should shut up and stop criticizing US support for Netanyahu's genocide because they're worried it makes Biden look bad.
And let's not pretend that the US isn't a two-party system.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Your choices are Trump or Biden.
Biden thinks the protestors have a First Amendment right to speak out. Repubs want them attacked by the National Guard and/or deported to a war zone.
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I think we all knew this of President Drink Bleach, and we saw how he tear-gassed protesters that time when he held a Bible visibly for a photo shoot.
Trump's issue, I optimistically believe, is that those who wrote "Uncommitted" during the primaries and those who point out the ongoing genocide will still vote for Biden - because everyone has already correctly assumed what this article is stating.
Nonetheless, it's reaffirming to have confirmation. Thank you for posting this.
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But what is Genocide Joe going to do to earn MY vote.
South Park turned a whole fucking generation into "but both sides suck" idiots.
He’s not gonna be Trump. Got my vote.
Biden is required to ship weapons to Israel by law. He is doing what he can to limit Israel's carnage. Remember the USS Liberty? Israel doesn't care about anyone other than Israel.
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Yup.
Would I like a better candidate? Of course. Do I want to cause untold suffering to myself and the people I love? Nope.
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These "I'm not gonna vote for Biden because my principles are too important" folks are really starting to piss me off.
Where were your principles last year? The year before? Where were they when Russia invaded Ukraine? What about the Rohingya? The Yazidi? How about here at home and what Republican power - in congress and across the courts? Where will they be if Trump wins and appoints another SCOTUS judge and packs the federal courts? When hundreds of transgender Americans are murdered? When women no longer have any autonomy over their bodies?
This isn't about your principles. It's not about you looking cool in a keffiyeh. This is about all of us on the left working together to reduce the most harm. You in your enormous privilege are not the main character here.
I mean seriously... get the fuck over yourselves you spoiled brats.
I suspect a lot of those people are arguing in bad faith and are actually spreading misinformation. That they never intended on voting for Biden, or always intended on voting for Trump and trying to make it seem like Biden is losing his base.
IRL, most people I know, while not happy with Biden's response acknowledge that Trump's view is much much worse.
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This comment section is nothing but crabs in a bucket. This is why rightoids have people banning masks and forming armies of idiots while the left toils against each other. Being unified like the right has benefits but is against our ideals. We need to find a way to compromise with each other to get the most important things we can agree on done.
And yet the same people will hold their intelligence and principals in high regard.
Meanwhile, the Right keeps stacking their deck by playing tribal games with emotions.
When the "scorecard " is tallied, you'll notice intelligence and principals don't count for much if they're not being represented.
All I'm looking for is spears pointed in the right direction at this point. This is it. Right here, right now. We either vote in Trump and lose all democracy or we bite our tongue and use another Biden term to get ranked choice. We can no longer afford to kick the can down the road.
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But please, tell me how you refuse to vote for Biden "for Palestine's safety"
That is so messed up. Makes Biden look quite reasonable on the Gaza issue in comparison.
Trump legit wants to nuke Gaza.
Biden isn't handling the situation well, but Trump wound be orders of magnitude worse.
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Where in the exact fuck does diaper don think he's deporting US citizens to?
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So all people who say then wont vote Biden because of Gaza, do you see know that Trump is even worse?
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The article doesn't seem to mention who these "donors" are... you know - the people with enough wealth to buy the politics the proles are constantly being told to "vote harder" for that seems quite happy to listen to their preferred stuffed suit talking about crushing dissent and accelerating ongoing genocide.
Trump scum cannot be reasoned with!
Swallow your pride and vote Biden.
I also hate the choice of lesser "evil"... but, do it!
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Okay, good fucking luck with that. You can’t deport natural-born citizens. What a fucking dumb fuck.
You definitely can — you don't have basic rights during a deportation hearing, such as the right to an attorney. All it takes is a bunch of law enforcement who are willing to do it and orders from above.
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It's funny how this headline is exclusively about what Trump would do to pro-palestinian demonstrators, which comports completely with what he was doing to or wanted to do to George Floyd protestors, and yet the comments are mostly about... Joe Biden?
Stay classy, Lemmy.
I would like to be deported to New Zealand please!
But yeah sit this one out because Biden isn't dramatically changing long standing us policy.
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