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[–] Eol@sh.itjust.works 71 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

So you can be the president if you're a felon but felons can't vote?

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago

Yup. Authoritarians often criminalize their opponents to prevent them from running, like Putin did to Navalny. Even if banning felons from office could have positive effects, it's also a dangerous flaw that bad actors in power could exploit to maintain their power.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As to the first part, yes. If the founders had blocked federal office due to a felony conviction, just imagine the clusterfuck. 200+ years of anyone and everyone trying to get a conviction, of any kind, on their opponents.

[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 16 points 5 months ago

Same thing goes for the second part. It's a roundabout way to block federal representation of certain groups of people. This is why automatically being blocked to vote because of a conviction shouldn't be a thing. As you say that would (and does) lead to a clusterfuck.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The basic idea being people wouldn't elect a felon.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Hold America's collective beers.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 26 points 5 months ago (9 children)

It's already started over in Twitter. MAGA Cultists are already thinking that America has 'died' lol.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're calling for Civil War lol

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (12 children)

And of course, they'll all be treated by the FBI with kid gloves, while leftists pointing out the impending need for self defense from their treasonous aggression will be persecuted as terrorists.

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[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 25 points 5 months ago

Don't mistake this, he will now do anything and everything to win the election. It's his only chance of avoiding prison. Cornered rat and all that -- it's more important than ever to get out the vote.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Some 10% to 27% of Americans, depending on whom you ask, want the full Trump program: mass executions of liberals, bans on contraception and homosexuality, Christian nationalism, the whole Unified Reich thing, and plenty of opportunities to denounce annoying neighbours/coworkers/acquaintances as “woke” and have then taken away. Another 10-20% are low-information voters who “aren’t political”, but know, from news headlines, that things are in some way not going well, and based on vibes, believe it’s time for a change of administration. Being nonpolitical, they don’t care who replaces Biden, as long as it’s someone else, and of course, don’t understand Duverger’s Law and the Electoral College and thus don’t see why it couldn’t be literally anyone else.

[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You're forgetting a decent subset. Ones who are informed but would rather vote 3rd party, which due to not having Teddy Roosevelt won't do shit, rather than vote for either of these guys

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[–] kelargo@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Joe Biden only won by like 43,000 votes across swing states in the electoral college. This journey is not over

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's wild to think he's willing to potentially lose to a literal felon just to protect a genocidal right-wing zealot.

It would be the most final indictment of neoliberalism one could imagine.

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[–] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do not underestimate how badly bigots want Trump to get rid of gays, transgenders and stoners.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Dem turnout is depressed and fascists are a hill of kicked ants. Its 2002 all over again.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Get all your not voting and apethetic friends to vote. Have a ballot party if your state does mail-in still.

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[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

If the Biden campaign thought that hish payment felonies were going to cost Trump the election, then they haven't been paying attention for the last 10 years

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Brandon definitely has his game hat on. Doesn't matter what the distractions say or do. Get tf out and vote.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

...Did they just figure this out now?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Biden needs to refer to the turnip as his felonious opponent from here on out.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I really wouldn't be surprised if Biden pardoned Trump after the election to "help the nation heal", sadly.

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[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if Biden wasn't a piece of shit he could get more voters?

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Donald Trump is now a convicted felon — but that won’t stop his “unhinged” bid for another four years in the White House, President Joe Biden’s campaign warned voters Thursday night.

In a statement issued not long after a New York City jury convicted Trump on 34 counts of falsifying business records, Biden campaign communications director Michael Tyler said the verdict against the felonious ex-president vindicated the American system of justice.

Tyler added that Trump has never been a greater threat to American democracy, citing his “increasingly unhinged campaign of revenge and retribution,” his pledge to be a dictator on the first day of his term if elected, and his calls to “terminate” the US constitution as a way for him to “regain and keep power”.

A spokesperson for the White House Counsel’s Office, Ian Sams, issued a statement stating the following: “We respect the rule of law, and have no additional comment.”

But the strong statement from Biden’s campaign is an indicator that he and his surrogates will not shy away from describing Trump as a convicted felon, even as he runs to regain his former position as president.

The case against Trump, which was based on his falsification of business records to conceal a hush money scheme meant to cover up a sexual affair from voters in order to win the 2016 election, was considered the least serious of the four cases against him, which include two sets of federal charges stemming from his alleged unlawful retention of national defense information and his alleged effort to illegally remain in office despite losing the 2020 election.


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