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Alright, just started watching Steven Universe. I'm 4 episodes in. That poor boy. All he wants is to be part of a family, and all three of the crystal gems are horrible mentors. Pearl likes to think of herself as responsible, but she cannot relate to Steven and is utterly failing to provide a system of structure that he can understand. Amethyst gets along with him, but she acts like she's the same age as him and can't provide him any of the guidance a kid needs. And Garnet is barely even trying. Greg is the best mentor figure Steven has in his life, and he's homeless with no future. At least he's actually taught Steven to have a positive outlook, but he's still not parent material.

That poor boy is getting wrapped up in big ideas of how he's going to save the day and have the perfect family, because the reality of his life is unbearable. I saw this show on the TV a few times when I was a kid and it bummed me out, but now that I'm a grownup I can see how traumatised that boy is and how badly he needs a responsible parental figure who can relate to him. All of the adults in his life suck! Watching this show is miserable, because I'm watching a kid who desperately needs a family be failed by the family he has.

I like traditionally grimdark settings like Warhammer 40k, but watching Steven Universe gives me the same feeling I imagine non-grimdark-fans must feel seeing a setting like 40k. Overbearing, unrelenting misery. It all sucks and it isn't getting better. On occasion 40k describes the life of civilians in that setting, how oppressed and abused they are by the fascist governments they live under. The fun of seeing evil soldiers who chose a life of violence killing each other fades away. Suddenly, we're seeing the perspective of the innocent. Their suffering. It's depressing and heartbreaking in the same way SU is.

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[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

SU is incredible. It gets so much better (AND 'worse'). You're not wrong! The writers are doing this on purpose, and they know exactly where they're taking the story.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One kid having a 3 aunts and widower dad and a dead mom does not a grimdark universe make. Is Earth grimdark by your rating?[rhetorical question]

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes. A species driving itself extinct through emission of pollutants that it has known were dangerous for 100 years, all to make rich people richer, is narratively implausible. If Earth were a science fiction setting, most people would complain it makes no sense.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 7 points 5 months ago

Well yeah, you flattened the most complex problem of human history into a glib statement. When you remove nuance, you can make anything sound however you want.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It might be unbelievable 40 years ago. What you just described is the base assumption of every sci-fi/cyberpunk story, m8. Asking if cyberpunk is grimdark woukd be a more interesting opinion, if not just an accepted fact.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago

SU is kind of the solarpunk of grim dark. The gem planet is shattered, their Earth is far less populated than ours is, at some point Russia was deleted! Yeah, it's like, bright dark. Hopeful dark? grim bright?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Just keep watching the show

It's a world buildy kinda show so you only being 4 eps in means it's kinda the point that you don't understand everything going on in the setting yet.