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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 64 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is this some kind of Minecraft I’m too RuneScape to understand?

[–] Raab@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] tinylightshow@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Raab@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Ok but like let's be real who actually fights with their wolves instead of just leaving them sitting in their base somewhere. Can the armor be dyed? That might help a bit

[–] anas@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

People don’t fight with their dogs because they die too easily, that’s what they’re fixing.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

I feel like letting pets/horses respawn sitting at pet beds/hay bales would massively increase their useage. You'd still have to go back home if you want to keep exploring with them, but not you can have some investment without easily losing everything.

Some smarter AI that actively avoids lava and cactus would be nice. Retreating when hurt could be good too.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody, minecraft has a gigantic balancing issue in favor of the player

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Still traumatised by the skeleton rework

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

As a non gamer this completely ruined the game for me ngl. I couldn't explore caves or hang out at night outside of peaceful mode anymore, lest I get my shit rocked by a skeleton armed with what may as well have been hollow point heat seeking arrows.

[–] authorinthedark@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 months ago

yes it can be dyed, and it dyes like leather armor so it's got a wide color spectrum

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

But now they are creeper proof

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago

I rarely keep my dogs sitting(unless im over lava or the void)

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago
[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Oh goshdarnit, I was so confused why they made the wolf fur this weird salmon/brick color. Apparently, that's an armadillo shell...? They really turned Minecraft into modded Minecraft, didn't they?

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let's not besmirch the name of modded Minecraft. I just got my mekanism fission reactor running and the nuclear fallout from messing that up would make a 8 chunk area unlivable for 29 game days.

Vanilla can have it's fucking armadillos, lol.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

minecraft the chernoyble update

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know what mods it was, but I remember playing with friends in s very chill server, each doing whatever crap they wanted when suddenly we all died and our mountain base was wiped and one of them was like "I didn't cool well the nuclear reactor". Probably the most I laughed in a game, aside from cyberpunk on PS4 on release day.

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vanilla Minecraft gets less and less “vanilla” every year.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They did also add fur variants based on the biome they spawn in

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I mean, I can get behind that. It doesn't increase gameplay complexity and people enjoy having their doggos in different colors.

But adding a whole new mob and items for one specific niche purpose, that increases complexity quite a bit. New players will have no idea what to do with the armadillo drops, without looking it up or being told by that AI narrator thing, I guess.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the scutes unlock the wolf armor recipe. It shows up in a corner for a bit and appears permanently in the recipe book

How a player would learn how to get the scutes without outside help is harder to answer

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[–] Iapar@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How is it bad that you have to figure something out in a game?

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Not to mention, turtle scutes were already a thing, and you only use them for two things.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hm, sounds like the opening paragraph to a mod, we should call it “better than armadillo’s” and essentially fork Minecraft into the game we think it should be.

Oh, what’s that? Modders did that with wolves 10 years ago… oh, I’m old.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

We voted for this lmao

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

scoffs rookie numbers. No see you need to pay for our painful subscription service. Its $25 monthly and gives you diamond armor every game you play and you can now fly.

Profit margins are more importaint than "enjoyment" ick

WELCOME TO TRIPPLE AAA GAMES 2024 EDITION!!

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I really hate that this was the only reason Armadillos won the stupid mob vote.

No one (from chat and what I've seen) actually cares about the armadillo. They only wanted to wolves to be more viable hunting partners in survival.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I did not keep up with Minecraft over the years, only just looked into this now, but yeah, this seems so arbitrary. There's a mob (armadillos), then an intermediate item (armadillo scutes) and the only usage for that is crafting wolf armor.

Whatever happened to not having a million different items? Like, that's pretty much game design 101, to combine mechanics where possible. They could have allowed equipping a leather body armor on a wolf for the same gameplay mechanic.
But it really does look like they wanted to add some animal for the publicity and then needed to shoehorn any purpose at all for it.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yup, they could have just made wolf armor follow the same system as horse armor. But they had to add an all new system to further complicate the game.

They did add a bunch of wolf variants, like cats have, so that's cool.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, I even forgot about horse armor. That's been in there for a while, but I'd remove that item, too. I have been doing Minetest, so that's probably where all the opinions come from. 😅

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Seems like you're some kind of purest...go back to the Alpha versions? Which, they actually make really easy.

Personally I like features that provide a new purpose and build off of existing systems. Horse armor is a a natural progression for protecting your horse. Its mirrors the player armor system with materials (leather to diamond). Wolf armor breaks the mold, it could mimic player/horse armor in mechanics and material progression, but instead it comes from armodillo scales with seemingly no way to upgrade. They even copied the ability to dye the armor - they probably copy pasted the code for leather and made a new redundant item.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They've been doing this for a while now. Panda and Polar Bear did basically nothing, but i'd argue it add to the environment.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

Pandas can be used to build a slime farm in peacefull mode.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The same thing happened to Lego.

Originally it was small pieces you combine in creative ways to build something.

Now all the sets have these huge specialty pieces that are barely usable outside of that 1 set design. Like the giant cockpit things that are 1 big hinged piece.

One option: They could have used leather for basic armor and then turtle shells for a better set and then gold for the best. Just use existing things and combine them in new ways. It is so much better that way.

There are SO many things in MC that have exactly 0 or 1 purpose and nothing more and that is such a shame.

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Im pretty sure that every mob vote ever has been rigged/predetermined

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Probably. I'll be surprised if they don't finally stop this noncense this year or next with all the negative feedback it got last year.

Just give us the new features without threatening us with other features "lost forever".

That being said, I will always give credit where credit is due - for a game fullly released in 2011, the fact we have gotten significant free anual updates for the past 13 years is insane. Unlike the other major 2011 release (Skyrim) that seems to only update to break mods for fun.

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[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

Survival has nothing to do with survival anymore…. Sadly…

[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago

Why the fuck is the wolf getting skinned

[–] CodyCannoli@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I love all the new variants, my favorites are the black wolf and the chestnut wolf

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

This is the kind of progress that can only happen once a game has been in the hands of a multi trillion dollar company for a decade.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I really wish I could find a wolf around. I found only one in my world and I messed up and hit him with the bone instead.

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

You are still a kid right? RIGHT!!! Fuck I'm old

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