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So I thought about this in the shower amd it makes sense to me, like praying and stuff never worked for most people I know, so a direkt link to god gotta be unlikely. That made me conclude that religion is probably fake, no matter if there's a god or not. Also people speaking to the same god being given a different set of rules sounds stupid, so at least most religions must be fake.

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[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think if god exists it would design a system that would lead you to it if you wanted to find it. In which case religion wouldn't have to be the only way to find god.

But I suppose I should ask what do you mean by the "way to god"?

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I mean the way to find god, to know if he really exists and if so benefit from his existance

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[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I agree, now how do I get my mom to quit telling me I'm going to hell?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 4 points 5 months ago

Well that's where all the sinners go right? And gambling and hooking are a sin... Hell has blackjack and hookers. Sounds like it could be a fun place.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You can point out the fact her depiction of a divine parent fails the Solomon test.

In the classic Solomon story, he tests two different claimants both saying they are the parent of a child.

The false parent was the one that only cared about being recognized as the parent and was willing to see the child harmed and killed to fulfill that desire.

The true parent was the one that wanted the child to continue to live as their complete unadulterated self, even if that meant the child never even knew they existed, let alone get they were the parent.

While it should be easy to understand why a church collecting your money promotes a divine parent who demands recognition and is willing to see its supposed children harmed without collecting its dues, it doesn't seem all that wise to believe such a parent represents a true parent and not a false one if we use Solomon's wisdom as a guiding principle.

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[–] style99@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Religion can still be legit IF

  • the goal is moral good - most modern religions have a similar moral basis, as do agnostics and atheists
  • non-interference - in this life, it’s all up to you
  • nobody can speak for whatever supreme being and it has better things to do than speak to us
  • outside of that moral foundation, it’s all more of a tool than a goal. Rituals and daily rules help you stay on the path but aren’t goals in themselves. For example if you adhere to your variation of communal prayer, you are spending time uplifting your thoughts to the moral foundation, and developing a harmony with your community. It’s a tool, a practice, to develop better habits toward your goal

Compare it to diet plans. There are many variations where the goal is to eat fewer calories but with rituals to help develop better habits and learn portion control. They are all legit approaches and you can reach your goal of a new life with whichever variation works best for you

Also people speaking to the same god being given a different set of rules sounds stupid, so at least most religions must be fake.

Ao is going to put you on the wall, my poor man. You better believe in something!

explanationIt's a forgotten realms reference, don't worry about it.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

One of the main reasons the Pope is anti-drag is that he thinks playing fancy dress up times should be reserved for only high members of the Vatican.

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