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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by marcie@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I'm looking for ones that ideally don't log IP. Is there a guide somewhere that looks into each of these instances and whether or not they fulfill the privacy promise?

I'm most interested in Invidious.

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[-] refalo@programming.dev 21 points 2 months ago

there is no way to verify they don't actually log anything

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

Eh. You can inspect the source code. Certainly there's no way to verify they haven't modified the source code but also why would they modify it to store your IP?

[-] refalo@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The source code of the frontend is unrelated to the webserver they use, which can absolutely store your IP.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

To be 100% sure? Host it yourself. There is always a chance the operator violates your privacy, willing or unwillingly.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

To be 100% sure? Host it yourself.

I mean for privacy, not really. Then the site in question is logging all of your activity from your personal IP, as opposed to an IP shared with others.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Self hosting doesn't limited to hosting in home. It can be a VPS, colocation, or even in your work place if the IT department is happy about it.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

If it's a VPS, it's still your IP

[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Making it available to others as well would be the perfect solution then

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

It's also a great way to have your server completely overwhelmed with traffic but yeah.

[-] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago

I trust my folks at sdf as fellow unix hackers.

[-] telep@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

self hosting is the only way to guarantee logs arent shared.

however it also means that your server address only pulls requests for things YOU look at, not the whole pool of people using the server. imo this is a bad trade off as it would allow the services to track my browsing easily anyway.

personally I would recommend looking at libredirect with a large # of frontend instances selcted & a vpn/tor. these websites normally work without javascript, so assuming you have a privacy focused browser your IP is the only tracking metric they really have. spreading your requests out over different servers whilst using a proxy would make this really difficult to correlate as it would require that mutliple instance operators were malicious & collaborating.

[-] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Trusting is good, but.. don't trusting is better..

[-] 0xtero@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

Self-host? Or use VPN to connect.

[-] Kory@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago
[-] Lowpast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] LittleBobbyTables@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

As another commenter said, it's not possible to verify. You'll just have to take each instance's word for it.

Instance lists for some privacy front-ends will point out additonal info, such as if each instance is using CloudFlare or not (this may or may not be useful depending on if you distrust CloudFlare), some other services (like Rimgo, a private Imgur frontend) lets the instance hoster customize the privacy policy. But once again, this is all relying on the instance host telling the truth.

[-] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

Use FreeTube with VPN. But you'll have to find a VPN provider you trust, of course. Should be a bit easier.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago

It is just Invidious

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Piped is good although it is weakened by the Google attacks. It will be back to normal after a while.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Freetube had an update I think either yesterday or the day before and that seems to have recovered now.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Freetube is invidious under the hood

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