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A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse.

However, people also say that it will help get ActivityPub and the Fediverse go more mainstream and say that corporations don't have that much influence on the Fediverse since people are in control of their own servers.

What a lot of posts have in common is that they want some kind of action to be taken, whether it'd be mass defederating from Threads, or accept them in some way that does not harm the Fediverse as much.

What actions can we take to deal with Threads?

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's worse off if we don't federate with them. That way they get their walled garden and people don't bother to use mastodon as it's incompatible. Federation gives everyone choices.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Large numbers is not the same as quality content. I submit as my evidence ... well ... Facebook. And Twitter. And pretty much every corporate "the numbers go up!"-based social media site.

[–] CupDock@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I welcome the extra content and massive expansion of the fediverse! Having millions of users has its advantages. Smaller communities will still exist.

[–] RyeBread@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

What worries me most is how this has shown me how how wildly insecurely ActivityPub seems to be storing and sharing user data.

[–] legion@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao do people want ActivityPub to be relevant or not? Defederating yourselves from millions of users is idiotic.

I was looking forward to being able to use a mastodon to interact with people on Threads but apparently that's the worst thing ever for you guys? What?

[–] TooLameForLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was looking forward to being able to use a mastodon to interact with people on Threads but apparently that's the worst thing ever for you guys? What?

Why not just go join Instagram or Facebook if you want that?

[–] legion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What? Meta won't control moderation on Mastodon.social just because they can communicate with each other. I want to be able to call politicians twats and "cunts" without fearing a banhammer. That's what it boils down to really.

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[–] Jumpinship@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I dint understand anything you guys are talking about here. Fediverse? Are we ralking about the collection of sublemmys?

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I thought Threads joining the fediverse was a GOOD thing, and even the Mastodon Org seems cool with this. More users = better.

Wanting to block Threads does nothing to Meta, and only hurts users. It would be like blocking all email from Gmail because you know they read your messages to generate targeted ads. You wouldn't be teaching Google a lesson, just hindering interoperability between people.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The EEE argument is a red herring at the moment. Sure, in the future, Meta and others could get clever in ways we can't imagine right now, but currently it's a "sky is falling" kind of threat. As it currently stands, the path from Threads launching to "Meta killing the fediverse" has all the logical progression as the Underpants Gnomes.

[–] SUPERcrazy3530@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right. It's all FUD at this point. There's nothing stopping servers from federating for now and then disconnecting later if an actual issue comes up.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is like the boiling frog analogy. Its never easy to get consensus on whether the latest insult is too much and so inertia holds everyone in place until its too late.

[–] SUPERcrazy3530@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't need to get consensus though. The Fediverse isn't a monolith and you can change servers if you feel the one you're on isn't working for you anymore.

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