this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2023
627 points (97.6% liked)

News

23367 readers
2641 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.

2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.

3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.

4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.

5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.

6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.

7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.

9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.

10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
rjc@lemmy.world
Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world
Tenthrow@lemmy.world
JonsJava@lemmy.world
gedaliyah@lemmy.world
little_cow@lemmy.world
jeffw@lemmy.world
enu@lemmy.world
627
'WE ARE EVERYWHERE' Videos Show Angry Neo-Nazis Cursing and Screaming Slurs During March in Florida (www.rollingstone.com)
submitted 1 year ago by TheJims@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
115 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Members of white supremacist and antisemitic hate groups marched outside Orlando, Florida, on Saturday screaming invectives, raising the Nazi salute, and yelling “Heil Hitler” and “white power.”

“We are everywhere!” neo-Nazis can be heard shouting in a video shared by former Florida House of Representatives member Anna V. Eskamani. Later in the footage, they yelled, “Heil Hitler” while performing a Nazi salute.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 126 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The m249 machine gun has a cyclic rate of fire of at least 650 rounds per minute with a sustained rate of fire exceeding 100 rounds per minute. From a stable firing position and with the aid of a bipod, it is possible to accurately lay down sustained suppressing fire on a mass of targets at will, providing that spare barrels and ammunition containers are at hand.

Unrelated, just thought I'd post some trivia

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I prefer mockery; to quote Mel Brooks:

If you stand on a soapbox and trade rhetoric with a dictator you never win ... That's what they do so well: they seduce people. But if you ridicule them, bring them down with laughter, they can't win. You show how crazy they are.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been saying for years that you cannot win a bad faith argument in good faith.

When Tucker Carlson inevitably runs for president, nobody should converse with him, at all, without mentioning the fact that he doesn't have enough testosterone to grow a decent beard.

Just emasculate him.

Fight in bad faith. You do no win a bad faith argument in good faith.

Edit: for clarity, if he did end up growing a decent beard, you then make fun of him for being such a pussy that he grew a beard to try to shut people up about his low testosterone. "What a sensitive pussy."

This is how they fight. It's easy to do.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Agreed.

To drive home the point further, as a member of a great extinct species once said,

Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters... Their silence is your answer.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Melkath@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Yes. Or... you know, shoot them.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Make Shooting Nazis in the Face Normal Again"

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I mean, we did have a 4-year long federally-funded convention for that back in the early 1940s. I’d like to see us bring that sort of energy back.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

"We are everywhere" -> "literally dozens of us"

Any time a loser wants to feel like less of a loser they need only look at this loser and realize that they are, comparatively, not a loser at all

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 88 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Not defending the nazi loser, and I know it's uncomfortable to admit, but he's not wrong, they are everywhere - in the police and other agencies, working in prisons, in the "justice" system, in government..
They're not all as loud as him, but if you think they're not in and around every point of power in society, you haven't been paying attention.
White supremacy is not the shark, it's the water

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That’s also the troublesome bit of WW2 history the books* don’t show so much, the reich had a lot of support in America, Henry Ford and Walt Disney being notable leaders. Our history is packed full of racist and authoritarian shit of all flavors.

Still though, we rallied and put enough lead downrange to make them stop last time, as a white dude, my type need to be doing more to shame and turn out these roaches to be stomped out for good this time. Enough is enough and eugenics never ends well for anyone. Trek showed us how to be better, just gotta bulldoze this two tone chucklefuck first

*the average school curriculum, several books have been published detailing the rich history of almost but not quite overt support of the rich to the other rich/potentially useful to get more rich

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sorry, didn't mean to downplay that; my point is more that if you're a gigantic loser and you have to get up and yell about how there are actually lots of other gigantic losers just like you, that's not exactly coming from a position of strength.

(but yes, the classic Onion article on the subject of Nazi cops is not inaccurate)

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

that's not exactly coming from a position of strength.

It is though - he's empowered and encouraged to do it by the system, he literally has the full power of the state behind him.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

No, don't minimize this, there are a lot of them.

Especially some of those that work forces...

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doxx these motherfuckers. Once they lose their livelihood they will start seeing the world in a much better way

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol. No they won't. It will just confirm their world view. They will see it as persecution because they know the truth. And they will find another way to make a living. One that doesn't rely on the opinions of the public and doesn't care for its own image.

[–] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

That's fine though, if you're too busy trying to make a living being a human piece of shit you're too busy to tell the world you are a human piece of shit.

[–] S_204@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

While this will inevitably lead to claims that the Jews who run the world are just seeking retribution, it's still exactly the right thing to do.

Shine sunlight on this scum to disinfect.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 86 points 1 year ago

According to FL, this is a-ok for children to see and quite preferable over trans people.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We are everywhere!....... except our jobs.

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or on our children's birthdays!

[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume that they even can see their kids.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why don't these idiots ever take in the fact that Hitler was a loser who killed himself?

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

They're happy to copy the genocide and goose-stepping, but skip right over that bit.

If you were real Nazis - actual champions of the white race, you'd do a better job of following Hitler's example. Finish the job, you fucking posers.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Here they go again with the silent majority bullshit.

They still can't wrap their heads around the fact that they are a tiny minority.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago

I wish they were silent.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

0-2 losers. Confederates and Nazis. Losers.

[–] itsyourmom@artemis.camp 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wtaf? I can’t believe this is allowed to happen. The videos that were in the article showed just how tough and brave these cowards are. The leaders are the only ones actually showing their faces. The rest? Hiding behind ski masks. Fuck them. Ignorant racist pigs… start a fire then do me a favor and fall in

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder what could be done from a open source intelligence point about them?

[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot really. This is pretty much what Sedition Hunters did for Jan 6 suspects, but it's also what your local antifascist groups do behind the scenes for your local communities to keep them safer.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably a ton. If they are showing their ass in public, their online profiles are probably much worse.

I would be down for a good ole public shaming website if a person's hate rhetoric is verified as true. Unfortunately, some of these people probably make a living by being a public idiot.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

If the people supposedly in charge of preventing these kinds of threats were actually looking to stop white supremacists, these people wouldn't have gotten to the point they did.
I guarantee if they were BLM or generally leftist group they would have been arrested and beaten if not killed (if they even got to the point of protesting in public, and not stopped based on online activity, which these nazis absolutely will all have), not let to spew hate speech and get home in time for dinner.
Never forget - some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses. And even those that don't actively, serve the state, that doesn't actually mind white supremacists because they serve it, and the capitalism it works for, well.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The conservative base.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 29 points 1 year ago

and yelling "Heil Hitler"

shorthand for DeSantis

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Nazis being everywhere in Florida might be surprising to some, I guess

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are they even educated enough to know that nazis killed americans?

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2nd largest nazi rally was in the US and the nazis got their ideas for eugenics from the US. Nazis and America have closer relations than you might think

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] blazera@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no...in Florida!?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Jsocial@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not a Trekkie, but I think they nailed the red shirt thing.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] takeda@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That clip with Laura Loomer and then saying they don't support trump reminded me of the South Park episode where KKK were supporting the opposite side, because they knew people wouldn't associate with them.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

They are just actors in costume and mask. Their little cult will soon drink the Kool-aid if we're lucky.

load more comments
view more: next ›