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Childhood is a relative sharing their subscription.
A family plan.
They bring you along because they can get some more xp with you in the group.
They literally get a referral bonus in the form of tax credits, etc...
And in some places they actually pay you for having children.
I wouldn't call it sharing... don't know about you but where i live you pay less taxes when having a child, and i've never seen a service make you pay less to share it.
That's taxes. Life in general though, well that's literally sharing.
The joke was that someone else was paying for it.
Parents pay more sales tax on things like diapers, clothes, etc.
I know I just thought the free trial would be more accurate.
I haven't thought about sales taxes, i guess you do pay more taxes if you count those.
Although not really similar to a subscription in that case.
Although not really similar to a subscription in that case.
I mean, you have to keep paying for more food all the time...
More like a free trial? Then you die of syphilis
Do you enjoy roads, indoor plumbing, or schools? I can assure you that the “invisible hand” does not care about those things
Taxes is subscription to be part of a society.
As trash as we’ve made modernity Ill take this over dying of a shitborne disease in a mudhut
I've been told we live in one of those!
Subscription fees are waived after a million dollars.
You're talking about the Premium Tier, which is currently still invite-only.
To clarify, that million isn't what you paid (you can easily pay more than that), it's what you're "worth".
The hoops you have to jump through to cancel...
Just use public transit
I don't think I got that free trial. Where I live, pretty much everyone pays taxes regardless of their age.
When you were 5, you personally paid a yearly income tax of some kind?
Stuff like VAT or sales tax, which you probably weren't paying either, don't count since they were talking about yearly taxes.
Child actors and actresses pay income tax. Children who work in family businesses often make a wage and are taxed on that.
Technically yes, but did you go to work to earn money to pay taxes as a child?
Technically yes, but didnyoubgo to work to earn money to pay taxes as a child?
No. But technically speaking, ididnbgo to work to earn money to pay taxes as an adult either. So I'm not sure where this line of questioning is going.
How did you pay taxes as a child if you didn't earn anything?
I would like to cancel this subscription. How do I do it?
Suicide seems pretty extreme. Also, I don't like suicide being suggested, even in jest, because you never know if someone on the other end just needed a tiny nudge to go through with it.
Alternatives off the top of my head:
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Move to a country without taxes. On the other hand, other than tax loopholes for the super rich, many of us living with US-level or above standard of living are unlikely to be happy in a country that does not collect taxes.
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Alternatively, you could set up a Star Trek-style system without the use of money in daily living, but that's going to be a tall order.
2024-08-21
Amt. Unit Item
1 pc Star Trek-style system
does not seem that tall to me...
See, you need all the supporting systems for that as well. You can't just buy a computer game and start playing, you also need a motherboard, a CPU, a CPU cooler, a PSU, a network card, at least one drive, some RAM, a bunch of cables, a case, the OS, probably a router and ISP hookup, the electrical outlet and mains power hookup, a shelter for the delicate electronic parts, likely property to build the shelter on, and all the rest of the society BS.
Now to be fair, most people already have electrified housing and probably an internet connection, and many places make a computer a single item purchase, but no one has the systems to bring about a Star Trek style system yet, and even the people who want to build them disagree on how. Building them is also probably going to be quite painful if Star Trek is anything to go by.
Although, perhaps there's a alien civilization out there that's done all this already that you can buy a colonization/uplift from. That might reasonably be a short if expensive order.
perhaps there’s a alien civilization out there that’s done all this already that you can buy a colonization/uplift from. That might reasonably be a short if expensive order
This.
And if we're speculating, why not go all the way and say we also don't know it would be expensive. Who's to say it would not cost, say, $15? Wouldn't it be fun to get a Star Trek system for, like, so cheap that a kid could afford it?
(I would make sure to read the fine print, though.)
My mom was an accountant and told me this story.
A finance guy had sole control of a rather large account. At some point he's strapped for cash, and just needs a little to cover the next few weeks. So he pulls a little out of this account, writes down what he took and what he'll pay back, including interest. He's not trying to embezzle, he's just in a tight spot.
Well, it goes pretty well, he paid it back and no one noticed. A few years pass and he's in a tight spot again, no problem he'll borrow from the account and pay it back just like before. Except this time he can't cover it. But he manages to make a quick sale to bring some extra cash in to the account to conceal what he'd taken. This starts a pattern, he withdraws money, but because money is constantly moving in and out, no one really notices and he's able to continue stealing money from this fund. It's a few thousand initially, after a few years it's a few hundred thousand.
Suddenly he's in so far over his head there is absolutely no way he'll ever be able to pay it back. It's a matter of time before he gets caught and he figures that before he commits suicide, it would be best if he just came forward with it, perhaps some of the partners in his firm can help him out. This was an 11th hour revelation, as I understand this man realized he could just confess while standing on the bridge.
He explains what he did, why he did it, and gives an accurate accounting of how much he stole to his board. After a moment of shocked silence one board member stands up, and says "I know what you should do." And before the relief could finish washing over him at a solution, he continued "you should kill yourself."
Shortly after that meeting, the IRS is at his door with a handful of US Marshalls.
Line 8 kids, if you're stealing money and no one's noticing, it goes on Line 8. Break one law at a time.
Crazy story, I enjoyed reading it even though the "poor" guy ended up killing himself. What's line 8 though ? I don't know what this means...
He's still alive! Going seeing the country talking about what to look for when you suspect somebody is embezzling.
Line 8 is a line in American income taxes, it's used for "all other" forms of income, otherwise not reported. So if you stole 100,000 dollars, even though you obtained it illegally, you're expected to report it, or give committed another crime.
Generally that line is used for more niche sources of income. There are planet of legitimate reasons to use it.
Die I guess
Create a libertarian enclave. PLEASE update me on how it goes. Mind the bears.
You can change your subscription but never cancel it completely. Similar to housing and your job.
You can cancel your subscription, but that might not go so well.
Stateless people actually have a real issue. While it sucks having to pay taxes, not having any country willing to acknowledge you as their citizen is much worse.
I should have elaborate on that: you can cancel the others too but not without consequences. That shows that they aren't free decisions. Social contract theory is a lie
We did a full circle, from having subscription less software, to having to pay the license tax, to subscriptions, to now calling taxes subscriptions
fly that coop, expats out of the US more than 330 days a year ain't got no taxes.
in most other countries you don't pay taxes for whatever time you're not in country.
So that's why the CEO is always touring the European, Asian, and South American sites, and maybe once a year does a whiplash tour of the US sites.... Makes sense now. Fucker makes $6,000+/hr, but I guess paying taxes on that is just too much to handle.
The cap on foreign earned income exclusion is $126,500 for 2024. That's not gonna make much of a dent for Chadbro McTechnut
yup, you don't pay personal income tax up to about $113,000 right now under those conditions, but If you're making $6,000 an hour, it's a lot easier to hire people in countries with stricter privacy laws to hide your cash in shell corporations so that you can pretend you don't have any money at all, just carry around "debt" because one of your companies owes your other company a bunch of money, even though both companies are far in the black.
TIL, I thought the only way out of that was renouncing citizenship
Live wherever you want at a price point you can afford(lots of choices out there) for 11+ months out of the year and income taxes up to 120k(as of 2023) are gonzo.
I mean, imagine enabling a trial and then suddenly finding yourself screaming and pooping all day, waaah, waah. 👼
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