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[–] lauha@lemmy.one 50 points 2 months ago

Most civilized countries allow you to refuse your inheritance. They cannot just force debt on you.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you inherited debt you got scammed

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My neighbor inherited the house he grew up in. He passed away and his grandson got the house. Turns out his grandfather took out a loan against the house and blew all of the money at the casino. His grandson is now paying for a house that was paid off fifty years ago

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

So he didn't inherit the house, not quite.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

In the US you can give it up to not get the debt. Would have just gotten nothing. Probably was still a better deal than going elsewhere. Or the grandson was just too sentimental about keeping the house.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

😕✋ family gambling debt

😏👉family gambling addiction

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't inherit another person's debt. Skeezy collectors can call and pester you, but they can't take action.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't you inherit debt if you also inherit assets in excess of the debt?

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Debts are discharged before heirs receive their inheritance.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No shit? I was not aware of that.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's right. If the debts take up all the money, then there is nothing left to inherit. And if there isn't enough money to pay all the debts, then the debtors go away unsatisfied. In no case do the heirs have any responsibility for the debts.

I should emphasize that this is in countries governed by English common law: the UK, Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, etc. I have no idea if it is true in countries following the Napoleonic Code, or anywhere else.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh, you meant paid. By discharged I thought you meant cancelled. Yeah, that's how I thought it worked.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You get what's left over.

If you get left a house that's 300k, but they had 250k in debt, you end up with 50k.

But if you get left a 300K house, and they had 500k in debt, you don't owe 200k. You just don't get the house.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

You would have to pay off the 250 k debt though, if you want to keep the house. You can't give the house away without paying the debt first.

The one inheriting the house may want to take a 250k loan to afford that 300k house.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Double it and give it to the next of kin"

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's a family tradition, that makes it okay.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What country are you in that you can inherit debt?

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could be indirectly inheriting the debt. They could've taken out a new/second mortgage to cover their gambling debts, for example. Sure, the kid could refuse the inheritance to avoid being stuck with that, but then they're still out a house they otherwise would've had if not for their parents debts.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That is just mis-spending the money you should have left behind with extra steps.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even the capitalist dystopia of America doesn't have inheritance debt.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Only partly true there I’m afraid. Pennsylvania allows for children to be responsible for medical and long term care bills from their parents under a filial support law:

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=23&div=0&chpt=46

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

PA is only purple on the side that faces the rest of the country.

At state government level, it's a special breed of the worst aspects of both parties.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s not the same.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I read that as if a person in poverty is receiving public assistance, parents or children may be responsible for some of that cost.

Not the same as inheriting debt

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s still owing money for something I would have never had a say in so call it whatever you want but it meets the definition of debt.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It’s similar to child support. In many states, if a child is in poverty and receiving services, the state claims the right to collect from parents, regardless of circumstances or prior judgements. It doesn’t seem entirely fair but there is a similar connection here, and it is explicitly for care while alive that you owe while they are alive. It does not cover debt incurred nor is it inheriting: you owed it all along

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

gambling debt ..... aka as the mismanaged family business