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Uber loses appeal - court rules drivers are employees, not contractors
(www.nzherald.co.nz)
In New Zealand specifically
For four individual drivers, even more specifically.
Including one named Shane, a 28 year old man who's a Scorpio and plays the drums, even more specifically
Who sometimes has dreams of going back to school to learn literature to become a writer. Not a best seller, but a low-key solid author appreciated post-humously for his contibition to the genre of sci-fi cab-driver novellas... more specifically.
Appreciated mainly by people living in a specific district of Akron, Ohio from Spring through Autumn - but never during Winter - during odd-numbered years... far too specifically.
Whose names include James, Heather, Roderick, Stephan, David, Carl, Doug, Pedro, Sarah, John, and Nick... Unhelpfully specific
Nice, another country where the gig economy suffers a big hit.
They need to have more countries stomp down on this. It sucks for workers, and just allows greedy C-suites to run away with even more money. Although what is missing here is doing this retroactively and making the CEO pay out of pocket all the missing money for the insurances and taxes.
I was in an Uber the other day when the driver started complaining, and rightfully so, that Uber only gives them roughly half of what they make and wondered why?
I explained how we allow monopolies here or duopolies to give the appearance of competition. In Europe there are competing services, to include functional public transportation, that drive the companies to pay their drivers a fair share.
Hell, how about you make them point out openly in the hiring literature that the car cost and maintenance is well above what they're paying you. Most people just think that The money they pay for their car, maintenance and insurance are getting fully covered by what Uber is paying them.
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I got tboned by an Uber eats employee because they weren’t paying attention and ran a red light. The driver had only been driving for a few months, and had no business being rushed by some app to meet some quota. Because of them, I’m permanently fucked up.
This is too bad, wish you the best. I already had a thought these apps are effectively decreasing safely of the cities for the profit, but haven't experienced it myself...
If it had be a local pizza place instead it would have been better? Safer?
The problem here is a bad driver, not their employer / contracting app.
Well yes, pizza delivery guys are pushed into the reckless driving too - some of the most absurd crashes I've seen involved them - however there is a big difference in the immediacy of the pushing. There's a difference between your boss yelling at you to be faster once per day or a week and the app constantly pushing you with realtime feedback and ever changing incentives.
I am an Uber driver and I do not feel forced into reckless driving.
Yes I expect all the “shill” comments and the downvotes. I will continue to tell the truth despite it going against the “free market evil” narrative.
Uber "people" or uber eats? Is there a difference in driver experience between the two?
Uber rideshare is what I do.
I’ve done Instacart and there were definitely time quotas. Same for doordash.
Both of those are extremely stressful jobs because of being on tight time deadlines that are not under one’s own control.
Uber has quotas?
They all do. Amazon is still the worst
No, Uber does not have quotas. At least not in Colorado.
Can people please put the country in the title. I have read multiple headlines thatjust say "court decides" with no explanation of what court or jurisdiction. Australia is not the only country where the employment status of Uber drivers is under question
I got worried but I saw the .nz link and assumed correctly it was new Zealand
But that wouldn't drive clickbait engagement now would it?
You're right. The New Zealand Herald clearly does not talk about what country their stories about hoping you will click their links.
Truly dastardly.
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US gig workers: If you have auto insurance, check your policy. Look for a " livery" exclusion. Many policies won't cover you if you're driving for a Uber/Lyft kind of deal and get in an accident (this exclusion does not apply if going under someone's liability, usually only first party) . Some also include food delivery in that exclusion as well.
Many insurances require you to get a commercial policy. Others have a rideshare "rider" for additional coverage while working.
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