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As the title says, my bootable usb is not showing up in the boot menu for my ThinkPad e14 AMD ryzen 5 7530u , gen 5 I think. I have disabled secure boot in the uefi and disabled fast startup in windows. Am I missing anything ? Note: this is my first time using a uefi bios so I don't know if there are any other kinks to mess with .

Edit : I contacted lenovo support for the above issue but even they couldn't find the answer so I guess won't be using linux for this laptop. But since it's for uni I guess it's fine. I will just use WSL

Edit 2: Reinstalled the bios , the usb boots now . Finally slapped opensuse on it and now running it

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's on the USB? Are you sure it's properly formatted for EFI booting? Did you make sure it it's actually working when plugged in on another machine?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I tried ventoy with mbr then ventoy with gpt then balenaetcher and Rufus with gpt and then finally a windows usb through the media creation tool. None of them worked. It's fine with my old laptop but since it was a legacy boot I am not so sure.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a BIOS config issue, or the USB ports are dead then.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This seems like a very recent laptop.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I just got it this monday

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Can usb ports die if you can transfer files through it ?. The bios is also what I thought so iam lost with that.

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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have basically the same laptop (it's an E16, but with the same CPU - it's just the 16-inch version of your laptop). Make sure you press enter, press F1 to go into BIOS, then go into Security > Secure Boot and enable "Allow Microsoft 3rd Party CA". That worked like a charm for me.

If you're still having problems, try writing down the steps you have taken (down to the key combinations; some pictures would be nice as well). I should have all the same settings menus.

Don't worry, though, you've made a good choice; I've been loving my Thinkpad E16.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I tried that as well the thing is the usb does not show up in the menu

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Weird. What distro is on it, what program did you flash it with, and does it show up in the file manager on another machine?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The first was the ventoy one with mbr which I was fine other machines I have used it before with. It had like endeavour os , opensuse, pop os , linux mint windows 11 etc...

But I also reformatted it with windows 11 from meda creation tool as well to check but that also doesnt work which is the most strangest part

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could MBR be your problem somehow? Maybe it needs to be a GPT table instead.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the top comment you could see I tried reformatting with gpt as well that was also not working

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could you record a video showing the steps you take to try to boot the USB?

Also, maybe pictures of any BIOS settings. I want to see if I can replicate the problem on my laptop.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
[–] TechAdmin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On 'Startup' section, what options are available for 'Boot Mode' ? May want to try using something other than Quick during OS install. Should be able to change it back afterwards for faster boots.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Tried that as well no luck

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These settings seem exactly the same as mine in all significant ways. Can you show me a picture of Config > USB?

Also, what's the partitioning on your laptop like? Have you actually set up Windows, or have you just left it in OOBE mode for now? On my E16, I just put in a second drive and haven't even touched Windows yet.

Also, when I get time today, I might try replicating your steps with Ventoy to see what happens. Have you just tried straightup flashing an image? (If you haven't, probably try something like OpenSUSE or Debian, which tend to have better EFI support on their installers.)

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have completed the windows setup with the usual 3 partition and I used Ubuntu as well but booting is not the problem, the bios just doesn't seem to pick up the pendrive

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay. What does your Config > USB look like?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Power through usb and the same on battery

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried completely resetting all BIOS settings?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Factory defaults tried that

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The last thing I would try is seeing if you can update/revert the firmware on this thing.

If not, then I think I might be out of ideas unless you happen to have a KVM switch that can stream over le intwerbz.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you reset the firmware ?

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's something you'll have to Google, but there should be a tool in Windows (you might have to install it from OEM website if you've reinstalled to debloat).

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you try Boot mode on anything other than "quick", and then F12 during boot see if that works?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only other option is diagnostics that also doesnt work

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you're going through that bud. I'm flat out of tricks.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Same I have already given up on it as well

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

did you try and press F1 at the logo screen after power on and adjust settings in the UEFI BIOS Config, Security and Startup menus?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only disabled secure boot and tried enabled secure boot with 3rd party Microsoft ca

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should try enabling the options in:

  • Startup>Boot>Boot device List F12 Option (most important)
  • Config>USB (may be only for charging, but may also help)
  • Security>I/O Port Access>USB Port (may be only for keyboard/mouse, but not clear)

and disable:

  • Startup>Boot>Boot Order Lock (imporrant)

then Restart>Exit Saving Changes and press F12 furiously during next boot (as i don't know when exactly) and select USB.

source: https://download.lenovo.com/bsco/index.html

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No idea. The USB should be in there. Can you look onto the USB from Windows? (but don't change anything on it) Maybe the port doesn't work properly.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The usb port is working fine for normal transfers . The bios just doesn't wanna pick it . I tried with a friends hp laptop it works fine on his.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some uefi set ups have usb boot disabled by default. It may be worth having a poke around and seeing if yours does.

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i enabled it to the boot order but the laptop is not picking it up

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only other thing I can think of is, are you absolutely sure the key is the right type, efi or mbr, depending on how you're booting?

[–] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

It's gpt due to the disk management, I went with it.

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