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Solved :USB Boot not showing in Thinkpad e14 (programming.dev)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Dotdev@programming.dev to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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As the title says, my bootable usb is not showing up in the boot menu for my ThinkPad e14 AMD ryzen 5 7530u , gen 5 I think. I have disabled secure boot in the uefi and disabled fast startup in windows. Am I missing anything ? Note: this is my first time using a uefi bios so I don't know if there are any other kinks to mess with .

Edit : I contacted lenovo support for the above issue but even they couldn't find the answer so I guess won't be using linux for this laptop. But since it's for uni I guess it's fine. I will just use WSL

Edit 2: Reinstalled the bios , the usb boots now . Finally slapped opensuse on it and now running it

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What's on the USB? Are you sure it's properly formatted for EFI booting? Did you make sure it it's actually working when plugged in on another machine?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I tried ventoy with mbr then ventoy with gpt then balenaetcher and Rufus with gpt and then finally a windows usb through the media creation tool. None of them worked. It's fine with my old laptop but since it was a legacy boot I am not so sure.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a BIOS config issue, or the USB ports are dead then.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

This seems like a very recent laptop.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I just got it this monday

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Can usb ports die if you can transfer files through it ?. The bios is also what I thought so iam lost with that.

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[-] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago

I have basically the same laptop (it's an E16, but with the same CPU - it's just the 16-inch version of your laptop). Make sure you press enter, press F1 to go into BIOS, then go into Security > Secure Boot and enable "Allow Microsoft 3rd Party CA". That worked like a charm for me.

If you're still having problems, try writing down the steps you have taken (down to the key combinations; some pictures would be nice as well). I should have all the same settings menus.

Don't worry, though, you've made a good choice; I've been loving my Thinkpad E16.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

I tried that as well the thing is the usb does not show up in the menu

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

Weird. What distro is on it, what program did you flash it with, and does it show up in the file manager on another machine?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The first was the ventoy one with mbr which I was fine other machines I have used it before with. It had like endeavour os , opensuse, pop os , linux mint windows 11 etc...

But I also reformatted it with windows 11 from meda creation tool as well to check but that also doesnt work which is the most strangest part

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Could MBR be your problem somehow? Maybe it needs to be a GPT table instead.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

In the top comment you could see I tried reformatting with gpt as well that was also not working

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Could you record a video showing the steps you take to try to boot the USB?

Also, maybe pictures of any BIOS settings. I want to see if I can replicate the problem on my laptop.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

[-] TechAdmin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

On 'Startup' section, what options are available for 'Boot Mode' ? May want to try using something other than Quick during OS install. Should be able to change it back afterwards for faster boots.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Tried that as well no luck

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

These settings seem exactly the same as mine in all significant ways. Can you show me a picture of Config > USB?

Also, what's the partitioning on your laptop like? Have you actually set up Windows, or have you just left it in OOBE mode for now? On my E16, I just put in a second drive and haven't even touched Windows yet.

Also, when I get time today, I might try replicating your steps with Ventoy to see what happens. Have you just tried straightup flashing an image? (If you haven't, probably try something like OpenSUSE or Debian, which tend to have better EFI support on their installers.)

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I have completed the windows setup with the usual 3 partition and I used Ubuntu as well but booting is not the problem, the bios just doesn't seem to pick up the pendrive

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

Okay. What does your Config > USB look like?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Power through usb and the same on battery

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Have you tried completely resetting all BIOS settings?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Factory defaults tried that

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

The last thing I would try is seeing if you can update/revert the firmware on this thing.

If not, then I think I might be out of ideas unless you happen to have a KVM switch that can stream over le intwerbz.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

How do you reset the firmware ?

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

That's something you'll have to Google, but there should be a tool in Windows (you might have to install it from OEM website if you've reinstalled to debloat).

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[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Can you try Boot mode on anything other than "quick", and then F12 during boot see if that works?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

The only other option is diagnostics that also doesnt work

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry you're going through that bud. I'm flat out of tricks.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Same I have already given up on it as well

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

did you try and press F1 at the logo screen after power on and adjust settings in the UEFI BIOS Config, Security and Startup menus?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Only disabled secure boot and tried enabled secure boot with 3rd party Microsoft ca

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

You should try enabling the options in:

  • Startup>Boot>Boot device List F12 Option (most important)
  • Config>USB (may be only for charging, but may also help)
  • Security>I/O Port Access>USB Port (may be only for keyboard/mouse, but not clear)

and disable:

  • Startup>Boot>Boot Order Lock (imporrant)

then Restart>Exit Saving Changes and press F12 furiously during next boot (as i don't know when exactly) and select USB.

source: https://download.lenovo.com/bsco/index.html

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

This what occurs

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

No idea. The USB should be in there. Can you look onto the USB from Windows? (but don't change anything on it) Maybe the port doesn't work properly.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The usb port is working fine for normal transfers . The bios just doesn't wanna pick it . I tried with a friends hp laptop it works fine on his.

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Some uefi set ups have usb boot disabled by default. It may be worth having a poke around and seeing if yours does.

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

i enabled it to the boot order but the laptop is not picking it up

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

The only other thing I can think of is, are you absolutely sure the key is the right type, efi or mbr, depending on how you're booting?

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

It's gpt due to the disk management, I went with it.

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