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submitted 1 year ago by awderon@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

The next years are going to be fun… The world is burning while the fossil fuel industry is chugging along like everything is great as long as you buy enough co2 credits.

I’m scared in what kind of world my children will have to live in…

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[-] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This is why I'm not having kids.

[-] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Life finds a way, and if your in a well developed nation with a strong military you will be among the last to feel the full impact of it.

I felt this way before, but decided screw it, if people can laugh and smile and love, even if it's only on occasion, while they work in a hell hole like a electronics recycling dump in Africa, then it's still worth it to exist. Just teach them to hunt and garden and stuff and give them the best chance you can.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Climate change is one of the biggest reasons I don’t want children. I can’t put blinders on and then feel zero responsibility for dragging them into a hopeless nightmare.

[-] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It'll be fine. It has all happened before. There was 5x to 10x as much CO2 in the atmosphere when the dinosaurs were alive (2000 to 4000 ppm).

All we need to do is kill off about 7 billion people and have the survivors move to the south pole atleast 300' above sea level.

[-] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Weather and even temperature are a bit of a red herring in all this. The extreme weather is caused by the rising temps and feedback loops, but what's happening is just the heat trying to normalize. We're not going to end up with 70c at the equator and -30c at the poles. Look at the cretaceous temp, CO2, and fossil records and you'll see that the temp evens out even with CO2 massively higher then today, and you end up with things like temperate rainforest at the south pole. Our real issue and the one we should be actively fighting against (as in actual in-the-street rebellion) is the absolute destruction of the environment. Chemical dumping, strip mining, industrial fishing, industrial agriculture, forever chemicals, microplastics, desertification and deforestation. These things are going to cause ecological collapse and kill almost everyone in the next generation or two, no question about it. We don't have to worry about the heat getting us

[-] awderon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You are right, all these other problems are also really bad. A lot of stuff is happening at the same time. It's hard for me to read about all the shit that is going down and not be able to do anything impactful against these things.

[-] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah its really tough and I try to limit my doomscrolling to the amount needed to stay informed. One huge problem with all this is that it effects the most privileged the least, and even the day to day things we can do to feel like we're helping are only really available to those of us with that privilege. Like, I could say "start a vege garden, buy hemp and wool clothes, fix things in your workshop instead of buying new" but yeah, those aren't really options most people can take unless we change the underlying structure of our society first. But then, why don't we try changing society so we can then fix these issues? In the end, it's all part of the class war, and we're losing badly.

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[-] Izzent@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Obviously the dude is not a biologist... Earth is gonna be fine long term, the other species are gonna be fine long term. The only thing we're running into the ground is ourselves.

Edit: check out all these clowns below who have a human superiority complex so inflated that they believe the earth will die with us 😂🤡

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The species driven extinct by climate change won't be fine

[-] Izzent@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Have you heard of evolution or are you one of those loons that believe "god" placed a set number of species on the planet and that's all there will ever be? Asking for a friend.

[-] SumWon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Evolution works on very long time spans. Anthropomorphic climate change will be way too fast for species to evolve and adapt. I highly doubt all life will ever be wiped out on Earth, but we might lose 99% of current species with new species evolving over time. This is our dinosaur asteroid moment for sure.

[-] Izzent@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And yet, life survived even the asteroid. It's arrogant as all hell to believe we have more destructive power than that asteroid. Or that we deserve to live on a planet we are destroying.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

We are living through a mass extinction event right now. We have driven hundreds of species extinct even before getting deeply into the effects of climate change so it's fascinating that you think that even more severe environmental change will harm no species at all.

[-] Izzent@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

You clearly love putting words in people's mouths. Utterly unrelated to what I said. Congrats on your irrelevance.

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Like we have for the last century? At some point, the doom sayers gotta be taken down a notch.

Remember when it was Global Cooling?

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