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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For people who do not get the Baseball metaphor, let me try to explain:

In Baseball there is a field (called a diamond) that has four bases (1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base, and Home). A hitter will start out at Home base, and attempt to hit a ball thrown by a pitcher. After they hit the ball, they will run to first base. If the ball has not been returned to the infield yet (the area where the bases, pitcher, and catcher are), the batter can attempt to run to 2nd base, 3rd base, or even home. Now sometimes a pitcher may choose to “walk” a player by throwing 4 balls; pitchers may do this on purpose if they feel the batter could hit a home run). Once a player has crossed all four bases, their team gets a point.

A lot of the time, players will either be walked or they will hit a single (get to first base). At that point, other players will do the same, moving all players on base to their next base.

This analogy represents a player who got moved to third base, not by their own virtue but by the virtue of others, but the player on third pretends he got to third all on his own, without help.

(NB. This is not a complete “how-to” on baseball, so I skipped over a few details not related to the analogy.)

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Now sometimes a pitcher may choose to “walk” a player by throwing 4 balls; pitchers may do this on purpose if they feel the batter could hit a home run)

Could you explain that bit? The rest I get. Is a pitcher "throwing" a ball basically them deliberately pitching poorly so the batter can't hit it?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. When the pitcher and catcher want to intentionally walk a batter, the catcher will extend their glove hand all the way to their side, which is outside of the batter’s reach, and the pitcher will throw it to the catcher’s glove.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not having a ball in the game, per se, that seems like it should be illegal.

Though there's an infamous "underarm bowling incident" in Australian/New Zealand test cricket that's similar, was legal, but scandalous.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Eh. It’s part of the game. I believe it’s always been this way.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's exactly what's happening

Yes. Its part of the penalty system. If the batter fails to hit a ball that they could have hit, they get a strike, and they get three strikes before they have to go to the back of the line and let the next batter swing: if 3 batters strike out, the teams switch. If the pitcher throws so poorly that the batter would not have been able to hit the ball without lunging for it, the pitcher gets a "ball". Four balls means the batter walks to first base (and everyone else walks to the next base). Unlike batting, pitchers do not rotate when they accumulate three balls, because pitching is so physically demanding that switching them out is already a regular process.

[–] yu_cosmic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What? I dont get the comparison is this a reference to baseball?

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The second part of the metaphor, yes. It's criticizing people born into extreme privilege for ignoring their privilege and thinking they earned what was actually given to them without effort or merit on their part, and then those people criticize others for not working hard enough to attain what they themselves didn't have to work for.

[–] yu_cosmic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah they should be thankful, lower their ego and as a minimum have something called empathy reflected in how they treat others

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

It's a baseball metaphor about how the people most likely to say "the poors" aren't working hard enough are the people who were given all of their money from their parents

[–] DemocratPostingSucks@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a baseball metaphor about how the people most likely to say "the poors aren't working hard enough" are the people who were given all of their money from their parents.

Born rich and pretending they made that money themselves.

[–] DemocratPostingSucks@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago

I got that, I thought there would be more to get