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[-] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 6 days ago

Even with the explanations given here, it's still very counter-intuitive for me.

I think the best thing would be to cut the person in half, send one half towards the sun and the other half out of the solar system.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 16 points 6 days ago

The issue is that you're starting from earth, and the earth already has a lot of momentum that keeps it from falling into the sun. To get an object from here to the sun you would need to counter the majority of that momentum it already has.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

It's not about the propellant, it's about sending a message

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Huh. I would have thought that once they break orbit that the sun's gravity well would do the heavy ~~lifting~~ pulling.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago

If you care to learn orbital mechanics, Kerbal Space Program is a great teacher.

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 19 points 6 days ago

"Breaking orbit" still leaves you in almost the same orbit around the sun as the earth. You need to slow down a lot to bring the periapsis of the orbit within the suns surface.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Imagine that you're standing on a train and have a baseball. If you throw the ball off the train, the ball will still have momentum in the direction of the train's movement.

If you want to throw the ball to a friend the train just passed, you have to be able to throw the ball faster than the train is moving or it will never reach them.

[-] Deepus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Now all im imagineing is a ball floating mid air and it's beautiful

[-] jokersteve@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Mythbusters did this! (Well, the ball fell to the ground, but for a split second it looked like it was hovering after being shot out of a cannon.)

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[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

The vessel would still have a lot of speed after escaping earth's orbit, so the trajectory would become a large orbit around the sun. You still have to slow down by about ~30km/s (or ~100 000 km/h) to make that orbit intercept with the sun's surface.

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

once you break out of earth orbit you are now in an orbit around the sun, similar to earths.

[-] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

I legitimately want to be cremated by the sun after I die. Doesn't matter how long it takes.

[-] Sas@beehaw.org 22 points 6 days ago

When the sun dies it will take the earth with it iirc so if you can wait until then you're good

[-] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We might fix that with a bit of star lifting, disappointing sexual_tomato

[-] geogle@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Don't worry, we all will. We all came from a sun, and will all return to one.

Knowing my luck I'll end up in a black hole instead.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Instructions unclear. I'm going to the moon on Delta IX.

(Edit: my dumbass just realized it's ∆V, as in velocity. I thought Delta 5 was the name of a type of chemical propellant. Though now that I think of it, it really should be. Damn, and I work for a space company too. At least I'm just in IT).

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago

how much to put them into a space suit and a car, strap them to a rocket and then fire them into orbit around Mars ?

[-] Sebbe@lemmy.sebbem.se 2 points 6 days ago

More than Elon had, apparently.

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Can a solar sail be used to put a craft into the sun?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

That's an interesting question. A regular sail can sail into the wind, but they have a triangular sail, and a keel with water resistance. I don't think any of those things exist in space, so I'm going to guess no. Perhaps some sort of high efficiency propellant keel could make it possible?

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

My intuition would say no, but to be honest, I don't understand the physics of either solar or watercraft sails.

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[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

So you're telling me shooting a space gun at the sun will miss?

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