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An escalating series of clashes in the South China Sea between the Philippines and China could draw the U.S., which has a mutual defense treaty with the Philippines, into the conflict.

A 60 Minutes crew got a close look at the tense situation when traveling on a Philippine Coast Guard ship that was rammed by the Chinese Coast Guard.

China has repeatedly rammed Philippine ships and blasted them with water cannons over the last two years. There are ongoing conversations between Washington and Manila about which scenarios would trigger U.S. involvement, Philippine Secretary of National Defense Gilberto Teodoro said in an interview.

"I really don't know the end state," Teodoro said. "All I know is that we cannot let them get away with what they're doing."

China as "the proverbial schoolyard bully"

China claims sovereignty over almost all of the South China Sea, through which more than $3 trillion in goods flow annually. But in 2016, an international tribunal at the Hague ruled the Philippines has exclusive economic rights in a 200-mile zone that includes the area where the ship with the 60 Minutes team on board got rammed.

China does not recognize the international tribunal's ruling.

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

These comments are nuts, why are people happy about this? Did we swap over to sucking off china???

If you defederate from lemmy.ml most these commenters dissapear

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think people are mad that they keep nuking trade and trying to ramp up military involvement for a double solvable issue that would repair both the economy at home and negate a trade war with China.

Except that invovles proper market regulation and not slapping tariffs to protect monopoly profits.

Probably just hit a nerve with people that China's usual tactics of slamming boats is suddenly worthy of America getting invovled just because a news crew was onboard, but 10 months of actual warzone genocide reporting in Israel means nothing to the government.

Either that or there's just a bunch of pissed off tankies lmao.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Having looked, it's pissed off tankies.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I mean I get that, but this is pretty separate from Isreal, and this is the third time I've seen them do this myself. Seems like it's at least somewhat newsworthy. You can in fact have both the genocide news and this stuff too.

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can they somehow build the boat like a porcupine? Make it expensive to ram. Idk, dangle a directed sea mine on the side. Or something.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like at that point you might as well put a few cannons on the boat.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

The purpose would be to make it so the act of ramming is what causes them damage. Sure, they could actively attack the Chinese vessels, but it'd be a lot easier to claim no fault if the Chinese ship runs into you and that causes it to be damaged/destroyed.

I think having some hollow tipped spikes under the water line that detach and leave an inlet pipe in the Chinese ship could be a good idea. Explosive charges could be another option, but at what point is that an active or passive effect?

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