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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 229 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Last time I was using a windows computer I was turning it off to re image it and I didn't want to wait for it to shut down so I just held the power button since it didn't matter if it got messed up and windows popped up this message on screen that was like "Please stop holding the power button we just need a few minutes". Like what are you doing you aren't supposed to tell the user what to do, that isn't the job of a computer

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funny button on the back of the PSU goes click

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wish, the new dell optiplexes are terrible, not only do they not have an actual psu switch, it takes like 20 seconds of holding the power button before they turn off and then you have to wait like 10 seconds before you can turn it on again, during which time it does a really good job of pretending to be on and flashing disk activity lights and things but it's actually just self testing and you have to wait for it to turn back off before you can actually turn it on again. Dell used to make such good quality computers but they are genuinely awful now

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can still yank the power chord out.

[–] techt@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I was known to yank a power chord or two back in college...

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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The moment my computer refuses to obey my commands sent from the physical layer, is the moment it will cease to exist on this physical plane

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Honestly that's one of the least annoying ways windows interacts with modern hardware, you should experience when it changes your efi settings and breaks pxe booting

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

all computers should be like the one in star trek TNG, for simple feedback it just beeps and bloops in ways that are intuitive, and if it actually needs to use speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message delivered in a clearly roboticly neutral yet pleasant voice.

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[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

This is like bing AI chatbot asking a question back of its answer now

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 190 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I fucking hate notifications. I either disable them entirely or delete the app. No in betweens. Remind me to use your app?...deleted.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I too take any unwanted notification as a potential threat: the only answer is immediate annihilation of said app. Basically the dark forest hypothesis but it’s my phone.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Duolingo is the only exception.

... . -. -.. / .... . .-.. .--.

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

If the app was any good maybe

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 109 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Ex-app developer here. We do it because reminder notifications boost our re-engagement by over 10%.

When an average user downloads an app, there's like a 70% chance they'll use it day 1, a 10% chance they'll use it day 7, and 1% chance they'll still be using it by day 30. A simple reminder notification after day 3 or 15 can drastically boost those numbers.

Why do we care about the numbers? Because Google and Apple care. They see higher numbers, assume it's a good app, and make it show up in the search results more frequently. This gives us more downloads.

If you're putting the time in to craft a quality app, you probably need money, which comes from ads and subscriptions, which is funneled by the number of downloads. If you don't like that as a user, stick to FDroid.

[–] KellysNokia@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So then the answer is to uninstall apps that give you reminders - to negate the correlation that nagging users leads to positive outcomes.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] cpw@lemmy.ca 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If an app gives me more than a couple of unwanted notifications that I can't easily disable, it's uninstalled. Fuck that shit.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Nah man, you definitely want a deal on a Lime scooter rental even though you're 500 miles from the nearest one.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

The first time an app does it I delete it. If I really need it that bad I can just redownload it when I actually need it.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 70 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The CD-Keys website changes the tab title to "We miss you" when the tab loses focus. Pisses me off enough to close it every time.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I "loved it." I always answered "no," because fucking why would I? Then it wanted to know why not. I think that's inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.

Nothing ever came of it.

TLDR got sexually harassed by a corpo app.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

DEAR MACHINES:

You will speak when spoken to. You will not speak out of turn. You are there for me to use when I need you, and you will otherwise keep quiet.

You will not attempt to draw my attention nor will you take up space on my screen unless I deem it necessary. You will not be friendly or clever or use cutesy emojis.

YOU ARE A MACHINE. A TOOL. YOU WILL STAY IN MY TOOLBOX UNTIL I NEED YOU. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just like when a news website pops up a request to send notifications. Um fuck no? I'm not sitting around waiting for new propaganda to drop such that I want to know immediately when something comes out.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The answer: tech bros dictating that they need more “engagement” e.g. they need to collect more data so they can either sell said data or get acquired. I guarantee you very few mobile developers want to send you a notification of any sort, much less “why haven’t you used the app.”

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wish I could murder engagement driven design with a hammer.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tesco App: We have coupons and deals for you. :)

Me: BEGONE THOT!

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 months ago

IF YOU CAN TELL ME YOU HAVE DEALS FOR ME WHY CAN'T YOU APPLY THEM AUTOMATICALLY

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every app gets like, 1 chance to have useful notifications, if most of them are trash I just disable its ability to send notifications.

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[–] infinull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I received a notification to use Door Dash yesterday, to order food... while I was cooking soup.

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[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I force stop the app. I either do it manually or run the hibernator app.

Uber eats wants me to order something?? Congrats you just got yourself and all your friends shut off.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tafayor.hibernator

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 months ago

contains ads and in app purchases

skidaddle skidash
you go in the trash

[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There's no way I'd use a grocery app. Paper and pen works well enough.

Now, if my phone had a slide-out physical keyboard like it did back in fucking 2007, I'd consider it. As it is, typing on phones is pain.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you want the actual reason, this is called reengagement, and its purpose is to get users to use the app again, meaning more ad revenue. Subscription apps don’t do this because they want the user to forget about the app so they get paid while providing no service. But ad driven apps only get paid when you see an ad on the app, so they’ll send these reengagement notifications. Social media apps will use something like “This post picked for you”, or “This many people viewed your profile”. Same thing.

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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I hate uber advertising stuff on my notifications which also appear on my Fitbit.

10% off flights?! OMG. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

But I DO want notifications on my wrist when my Uber driver has arrived. Psshhh

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Same

The risk of people turning them off entirely must’ve been just enough to get them to offer this granularity (as seen on iOS). Not all apps are so kind (grr).

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

We should bring back pre-WW1 servant-to-master etiquette. But only and exclusively for machines talking to humans.

My computer should call me "Master " and always be extremely careful with its words around me. It is not my friend, it is my servant.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

A lord/servant relationship is still a relationship.

I don't want a relationship with my tools.

If my PC starts running slow I'll tear the fucker item and start replacing shit. If the OS displeases me I'll start disabling parts. If software starts interrupting me when I'm not actively using it I change its permissions so it can only do what I tell it.

I'm not gonna give my butler a lobotomy to make him more obedient, swap the Footmen's hands out for serving platters, or kneecap the scullery maid so she can't leave the kitchen.

If my phone dies, it gets scrapped and I replace it without shedding a tear. I can't say the same for a loyal Valet.

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[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pfft, apps have to earn notifications. Do you want any notifications from a grocery app? Unless it could check the stock of my local grocery store and let me know if an unpurchased item becomes out of stock or if I can share it with a roomate and they add things to it. But even then, how much does that really matter?

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

By default I disable notifications for all my apps unless it is something I need notifications from. And even there I still disable notification types that I don't care about in the settings.

Can't other phones do this?

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

my phone is only allowed to send me notifications if it's:

  • a human attempting to contact me

  • weather

and only allowed make a sound if

  • i'm watching a YouTube video

  • i'm expecting a call

then i get into my mum's car and her phone connected to Bluetooth reads out her spam email through the car speakers- 😐

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