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[-] odium@programming.dev 59 points 6 days ago

Is it possible to make any argument for Russia's economy?

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Arguably 'russia's economy' is a word combination without obvious linguistic problems

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

And it sets up a truble joke beautifully.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Only if you're a landlocked Central Asian country with no other avenues for more trading opportunities with the wider world.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 6 days ago

Even then, it seems smarter to go with China or India since those countries will actually consume the raw materials being produced by these countries.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The economic and political infrastructures between Russia and Central Asian states are already well established thanks to history, which makes both parties still rely on each other. But the connection between Central Asia and China and India is not well established, which makes more immediate realignment difficult for Central Asians. The Belt and Road Initiative is still in its infancy in Central Asia. But even then, many analysts say the BRI infrastructures in Central Asia has not been profitable for China. Many say the real purpose of BRI in Asia is to provide back up trading route for China, if South China Sea ever becomes a war zone too dangerous for shipment towards the country.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Can't they ship from St. Petersburg?

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

Yup. I argued to a Russian troll before that the "similar culture" is not good reason to violate national sovereignty. Like, UK could not forcefully retake New York simply because New York once belonged to the UK and both speak English. The troll responded that if the people want to join another richer country, then just let that happen. Which is a farcical argument, even for a Russian soaked in Putin's propaganda, that the US is ten times richer than the UK, and of course New York would wish to remain with the former, if economy is the arbitrator on where one should side with. It did not also occur to the troll that he/she should apply the same logic to Ukraine as to why they want to align with the EU/West. Because the West the way richer and even ordinary Russians know it.

Sorry Vlady, the West could afford a bigger wedding ring.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 5 days ago

hides his plans to "liberate" the Anglosphere and make them states

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[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 39 points 6 days ago

Because nato and the UN are the first sign internationally cooperation, but people want to shit on it because they don't have a good argument of why the structure doesn't work, so instead of creating a good argument about the current structure, they just shit on it and say "NATO BAD".

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago

There is a reason why it is obvious to some people why NATO and the UN are bad and not to others. There are obvious good reasons to hate those organizations if you are the kind of person or nation who wants to do horrible things to other people or nations for your own benefit.

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I'm not saying any of those people are wrong or right. What I'm saying is is people put forth the energy to criticize those organizations and countries involved without coming up with solutions to improve said organizations. Instead people just say that those orgs are evil or bad. Both organizations are international coops, so how is that a bad thing? It shows a great chance, but instead of trying to find solutions, they want to chastise it.

So with that being said, what would be your solution to improve NATO and the UN?

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

Both organizations are international coops, so how is that a bad thing?

What I am saying is that that is a bad thing if you are the bully everyone else is cooperating to protect themselves from.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

It's interesting to think about "NATO vs Russia" framing.

When we think like that, of seems like there are these two similar entities opposed to each other. Not even close to true!

NATO = THIRTY TWO distinct governments representing many hundreds of millions of people who voted for them

Russia = One government that doesn't properly represent its people and heavily relies on propaganda to survive

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[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

the defenestration is incredibly relevant.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 4 days ago

China (but not Russia) does make arguments as to why their political and economic systems are superior pretty regularly

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Hey, China, the nine dash thing isn’t working. Instead of picking a fight with the every country (aside from NK) in the entire south pacific, perhaps… take a cue from the Russo-Japanese war - look north man, there’s shittons of resources up there, and space… tons of space. Hell, get Yongmingcheng back and just… see where it goes. The second best army in RU (ukraine's forces in Kursk currently being #1 apparently) isn't gonna stop the might of the PLA.

Worried about the international backlash? HAHAHAA THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL NOT COME TO RUSSIA’S AID. Give it a nibble, russia’s had ages to exploit these resources and barely sprinkled the lands with their people.

You could fight everyone in the south pacific over taiwan, or, you could fight the second best army in russia. So many benefits.

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