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[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 29 points 2 hours ago

kill individual fighters

They killed like 1 fighter in exchange for wounding a thousand civilians, including at least one little girl who died. The pager shit is every bit as indiscriminate as the bombing.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

i think they killed like, 12 people, and injured somewhere between 1-2 thousand more, probably some civilians in there, but these are military pagers to my knowledge so it'd be weird for it to hurt a bunch of random people, but it's possible.

if you include the radio attack i think it's like another 40 dead, and like 500 injured? Don't quote me on it.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Last I saw was 37 dead to over 3000 injuries

yeah that's what wikipedia is saying. I'm unsure if this includes the radio attacks also though.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Hezbollah was using commercial grade pagers because they're a militia. The purpose of pagers are to contact them when their off duty. Many of these pagers blew up in homes, grocery stores, and other public places. Many civilians were killed and most people injured were bystanders.

from what i can recall, and from the stats i've seen, these "explosions" seem more like "really bad pocket fires" more than anything to me, i could see it injuring people. Maybe two or three standing immediately nearby other people.

But considering this attack has only like 12 confirmed dead civilians or something, "many" seems a little excessive. I could see a few hundred getting injured though. Possibly a few cars/homes burning down. That might cause a few more.

ok so, did a bit of a check here, 12 civilians died. That's where that number came from. 40 people died total, i think. At least that's what wikipedia tells me. I don't think it ever mentions how many civilians were injured directly, but assuming it follows the deaths, it's somewhere between probably 500 and 1000 i would guess.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Is lemmy having trouble telling the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah now?

no i think they're talking about it cuz its israel

[-] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I forgot every method works the same against every target.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 hours ago

No? This is implying that Israel has had the technology to precisely target people for months but chooses to destroy a whole region instead went it came to Palestine.

to be clear, you can't directly target an individual, you can maybe potentially target a single individual.

This is also not to mention the cost and accessibility of doing something like this at scale. It's theorized they either got into the factories, or somehow got through the shipment and intercepted it to do this operation.

It's possible they acted as a middleman but that would be really really hard to do at scale like this.

And even if they did this in palestine, it would only work once.

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

You don't need to speculate or theorize; they say exactly how they did it. I cut to the exact part of the video where it is succinctly explained.

You'll also notice that, according to Ben/according to Israel/according to Hezbollah... they advertised that they were going to stop using phones & switch to pagers. In July. So people going on about "they could have done this all along" are wrong. It's been since sometime in July. This July. Which makes this a very fast & even more effective military operation.

Yes, the shell company was set up 1.5 years ago. Date of sale, idk. But common sense: you need to sell your enemy the goods...and you need to know with relative certainty that the hardware is actively in use. So: since July.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago

Who's confused? They wanted to do a genocide so now they're doing a genocide.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

It's more like, they keep doing the genocide.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 14 points 7 hours ago

Hamas != Hisbollah

But I start to wonder if they Knees about the planed attacks and let them happen to start this massacre.

It feels like the all seeing eye of Mossad was ignored on purpose. I hope Netanjahus Name will be branded for ever. He deserves no good mention in History of humanity.

On the other side... humanity faces the biggest historic event ever and no one cares (climate change)

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Hamas != Hisbollah

And they also don't use pagers, or cell phones, or....?

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