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[-] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is this the Nintendo redemption arc?

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[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure it makes designing Pokémon much easier

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[-] roteradler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nintendo can't even do games on a technical standard higher than 2012, how should they use AI? And their hardware is way to weak as well BTW.

They're just lucky that the current AI Models are crap, otherwise this would be the next standard they're missing in their "more of the same since 1980" games.

They should use more energy and money for developing innovative games than suing every fart on the planet.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'll never understand how these always get downvoted. I understand Nintendo people love their zelda and mario games, but their console is less powerful than most mobile phones. I bought disco elysium on the switch that i only have for my nephew. It has a lot of trouble running DISCO ELYSIUM!

[-] limeaide@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

If you only judge games based on graphics, I understand your point of view.

But I think it can be argued that Nintendo's gameplay/design is pretty often up to date, if not ahead of it's time. And tbh to me that matters the most.

Ex: Mario Wonder, Odyssey, BOTW, TOTK, Metroid Dread, Animal Crossing, etc

[-] faltryka@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I play on Switch and Pc, different games on each. The attraction to games on the switch for me isn’t graphics or power or performance… at all…

It’s gameplay and form factor.

[-] roteradler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I totally get your point and agree with it. I still play on my Vita, GB and PSP to this day.

What I'm criticising here is Nintendo as a company and the article itself. Is obvious that they don't want AI because they can't handle it and they don't need it. AI atm can replace artists and actors but Nintendo games have nearly nothing to synchronise and the models for the games aren't that difficult to make. So why should Nintendo care for AI anyway? Just take a look at Google and the other companies spending billions every year just to train their AIs.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

AI atm can replace artists and actors

Another things no consumer wants

[-] exanime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

They’re just lucky that the current AI Models are crap, otherwise this would be the next standard they’re missing in their “more of the same since 1980” games.

So you are complaining they are not adopting something you admit is currently crap?!

I'm going to complain about billionaire taxes then, I mean I have no billions but I'll complain anyway

[-] roteradler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, I'm saying, that Nintendo wouldnt benefit at all from AI, so why should they use it in the first place? And the reasons for that are:

-AI in it's current state can only support in certain areas -Nintendo's games aren't massive enough to profit from the things AI can do atm

An example: AI can do Text to Speech, but Nintendo doesn't make games like TES. Nintendo needs to optimise their games highly to run on a switch, which AI can't do.

He is just stating the obvious, like saying the sun is hot.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 weeks ago

Good for them. I’d love to see ALL industries do this but that’s going to be impossible. We’d need greed eradicated before that happens.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The different direction;

No more original IP, and 99% of profits come from litigating against end users.

(It's the same direction as before, just not including AI yet)

[-] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

List of a few of Nintendo's new IPs from the last 15 or so years:

  • Arms
  • Good Job!
  • 1-2 Switch
  • Dillon
  • Splatoon
  • Snipperclips
  • Pushmo
  • Steel Diver
  • Fluidity
  • Nintendoland

Just because you aren't buying/playing them doesn't mean they aren't making them. Let's also not ignore the amount of time to develop a game has increased significantly or how gamers overwhelmingly choose to buy games from well-known IP. They are a company and need to pay their employees. I'm not a fan of Nintendo's litigation practices, but I'm also not a fan of how whiny and bitchy gamers have become. If they aren't whining and or bitching, they are harassing developers and actors.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, that direction is extremely lucrative, whereas AI is extremely expensive and totally unproven to be profitable.

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