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The former president spent the weekend spewing dangerous nonsense at a rally. The press spent its weekend polishing it into palatability.

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[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 118 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Any news organization that sane-washes this nonsense is not centrist.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

They are corporations that make money from news entertainment AND he's all about giving them MORE power and MORE money.

He's their golden goose and their wet dream all rolled into one.

Follow the money.

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any news organization that sane-washes this is not a "news" organization. They are a fascist's plaything.

Do better, media.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Narrator: They didn't.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But MBFC is telling me they're all centre-left, so that must be true

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

From observing MBFC I can conclude it is far right.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

corporations have incentives to be right wing. why would they be centrist?

also news organizations should be fair and accurate, not centrist.

[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They never really were. The Bircher types have always whined that the corporate media is "the liberal media". This was and is complete nonsense, of course. Of course, to compensate for this constant whining, they have internalized this silliness and constantly steer into goofy practices like being "objective" and giving equal times to "both sides" - this only enables the pathological lying that is the norm for the right.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

News organizations are not supposed to be centrist, they are supposed to be neutral.

[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I completely agree with you

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They analyzed how it would affect their numbers and determined it would turn off too many MAGA viewers and not attract enough other viewers to make up the difference. News for profit was always a bad idea.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe this is just I dream I had but wasn't there some kind of regulation at one point that said news orgs (or departments) couldn't make a profit?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

You might be thinking of the Fairness Doctrine, which has to do with the subject matter and not profits.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It was a dream. But a good one. Until we manage to go full communism someone will have to make something for their time and effort in order to live. But if we broke up most of the media. And put strict regulation against publicly owned companies owning or trying to pass themselves as anything relating to news. It would be a good start. Stuff being privately owned does not automatically make it more factual. But at least an owner might have a reputation that they could value. When it comes to publicly owned companies. Where the bottom line is profit. Truth and factuality are the first things sacrificed.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I understand your point, but if news isn't for profit, who would pay the reporters? I used to write for a newspaper and it's pretty hard work.

It can't be state sponsored, due to the conflict of interest. If the state pays for the media you couldn't trust the media to accurately report on the state.

Honestly, in good faith, wondering what the other options would be.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

While there are no perfect way. It would be much less of a problem then it is now. And easier for watchdog orgs to pay attention to and call out.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Using the propaganda model... news businesses favoring profit over the public interest succeed, whilst those favoring reportorial accuracy over profits fail — and are relegated to the margins of their markets (low sales and ratings).

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They do this shit like it's their main job. Now they've moved on to sane-washing talk of giant faucets in Canada.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can't believe it! He was right!

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

what is happening right now

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The illusion works because the support is hidden inside the flowing water

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

yeah i meant more like the comment thread than how the "floating pouring vessel" illusion works.. my uncle had a beer can with this thing on his home bar in the 80s

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Relax I’ll call the plumber

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

It's pretty awful to see that there's basically nobody in mainstream media willing to stand up for immigrants given the vicious hate Trump and Vance are spewing at them. In past times Edward R. Murrow would end both of their careers. But now you just have some corporate talking head saying "we looked into the former president's claims and found no evidence that is true" when talking about lies that Trump/Vance picked up from actual neo nazis.