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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the end all that matters is does Nigeria want to fight this war or not. They're the ones that'll be paying for it in blood and treasure. France is a sidenote. They're not going to die over this.

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

France about to do a colonialism again

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So far a leader of a military group, which has just overthrown a democratic elected leader, which cooperates with the Wagner group to secure their might, claims that France is doing that.

I would put a big question mark behind that claim and wait for reliable sources.

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Democratically elected my ass. The popular support for the coup, however misguided it is, seems overwhelming among the locals

We the french have no right to force a democracy upon them. Doesn't matter how stupid we think this is

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Russian propaganda did a good job there. I lough if they think Russia will solve their problems.

[–] Pili@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

They haven't overthrown any democratic elected leader, the only person they've overthrown was Bazoum.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

France about to depose a military coup? Recall this is the junta that deposed Niger's president that is claiming France is going to invade.

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell which side is the good one here.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the end goal of either side isnt the redistribution of the countries wealth, increasing health, education and housing programs then they can both get fucked

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah, fully admit all I really know is that the deposed president was democratically elected, that the military junta was not, that Russia is suspected of BS, and that the migrant issue is potentially involved.

The first one is the important one to me, that its a Ecowas sanctioned military dictatorship making the claim that Ecowas is going to invade with France's help.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is europe and the west in general is bleeding africa of it's ressources and even though it topples a democraticly elected president the goal they claim is to free themselves of postcolonialism wich could be very good for africa. But yeah always hard to know woch side tells the truth...

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[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As a French I don't know either, especially looking at our history

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Siding with the democratically elected leader is generally a good choice.

Not so simple when everyone in the country instantly started chanting that the coup liberated them from french influence and protesting at our embassies

Awaiting proper stats but just asking people in the streets what they think about it all tells a different story about the previous regime

[–] sederx@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there's never one?

wonder why the downvote, we sure would like to thing that there's a bad and a good one, much easier, but most nation are acting for their own profit first, not by pure heart

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[–] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Niger's junta knows this how?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Russians were feeding them intelligence

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're getting downvoted, but the Wagner Group has a stake in this coup being successful and the group has ties to the Russian government.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I dunno why people find that so hard to believe. They have a clear interest in propping up this coup.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a difference between a clear interest and moral reason. There is a clear interest.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I realize now the lemmygrad folks are here so that prob explains the downvotes

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago

It is really hard to sell a liberation foreign policy when the group doing so is getting paid by strip mining the land in compensation for their services. Well, unless West is bad and always bad, but it is really hard to sell moral superiority by being mercenaries.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Because you don't just have a coup after having a stroke of insight from a night of binge drinking?

It's a movement led military units that have deep political and intelligence connections. They know a lot of things that aren't going to be admitted by the West.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wait, you're joking but that actually could work.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

🤔 ...That too.