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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by pisturko@lemy.lol to c/technology@lemmy.world

Discord is banned in Turkiye. The reason is some data theft, blackmail, AI montage photos, etc. As usual, our government made the easiest and most illogical move :)

I am looking for an alternative platform to talk and chat with my friends. Which platforms do you recommend?

The ones I tried:

  • Revolt: Voice chat is not stable. They do not accept new registrations.
  • Matrix: Unstable overall.
  • TeamSpeak: ancient interface. We can still try it.
  • XMPP: It has an old interface like TS. Not sure if it has voice channels.
  • Your recommendations?
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[-] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 7 points 6 days ago

IRC: it’s open source, it’s free, its retro

[-] amnesiac@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

How about Guilded?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 1 week ago

waits for matrix fanboys to still chime in

[-] pisturko@lemy.lol 33 points 1 week ago

My client shouldn't be bugged when I enter a room with a long history, right? Right?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 week ago

Couldn't decrypt message

Hey, they're fixing that. Soon. Really. Any day now. For reals!

(That's the #1 thing that makes Matrix utterly unusable for me: if there's more than like, 10 messages, it's a game of is-it-broken-or-is-it-just-crap.)

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[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago

The lack of interest in it even amongst tech communities and bridges (they can link Matrix servers and Discord servers) constantly being down has kept me from giving Matrix a second chance.

I think it was a Linux gaming community last time that got flooded with hate content after the bridge went down and the Matrix side was left to itself.

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[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Matrix is probably the closest to Discord overall. If Element is bugging out on you, it might be worth trying other clients. Nheko worked well when I tried it, for example. Do note that the matrix.org homeserver is sometimes overloaded, so if you're having responsiveness issues, choosing or running a different homeserver will probably clear them right up.

Mumble.info is great for voice. If your text chat needs are pretty basic, it might be a good fit. I don't think it saves message history.

XMPP is a protocol, not an app. If you you saw an interface you didn't like, you could always just use a different client. I don't usually recommend it, since setting it up with all the features people usually expect is a bit complicated and error-prone, but it would probably be fine among a small group of friends if one of them has tech skills. I don't think it offers voice, at least not in any widely-supported way.

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[-] Cossty@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use Steam Chat for playing games with family and friends. It has better audio quality than discord in my opinion, and you can make groups (something like Discord servers) too. It doesn't have all the functionality of servers, but the basic idea is there.

I am actually surprised nobody mentioned it yet Why use some third party application, when you can use the Steam's one.

It's not like the OP is concerned about privacy. They were using discord. They didn't say it has to be open source.

For talking outside of gaming or away from PC, I use signal.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago
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[-] Imma_lazyboy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

I setup a Mattermost server for me and the boys. It’s more slack than discord. But chat, rooms and voice all worked. Push notifications worked on android and Apple. But, I had to admit defeat. No one wants to leave discord because they all have at least 1 friend who won’t leave it.

I tried to self hosted matrix, but it suffered the same feigned interest.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Discord is banned in Turkiye.

Considering the nature of these programs, I think the most important thing to hone in on is: what's popular in Turkiye? Features and functionality don't mean squat if no one's around to enjoy them.

...tad off topic, but this thread is making me miss xFire. That shit was better 10 years ago (maybe more like 15? idk, I'm old) than Discord was at its peak. ...litigated out of existence by Yahoo's frivolous weaponization of our legal system. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

Edit - Fuck you, Yahoo.

Eh, I'm honestly trying to give Yahoo another shake now that Google is so terrible. That said, Yahoo still sucks to use, and it lost most of the charm that it had in the 90s. And BTW, the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.

There comes a point where it kinda just blurs together. I'm old enough that when people ask how old I am, I have to stop and think what year it is, and do some quick head math to figure out the answer.

Dang, that hits too close to home for me too. I have kids, and sometimes I forget how old I am because I care far more about how old they are that it just isn't as important to me.

[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

xFire was great, didn't know the whole yahoo thing

Kinda liked the separate applications for voice and chat, we used ventrilo over teamspeak for reasons I don't recall but all of that is just ancient history at this point (was using that like literally 20 years ago)

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Jitsi meet is what I use for calls with my friends. You can continue using revolt or matrix or something for the text channels.

https://meet.calyx.net/

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[-] femtech@midwest.social 16 points 1 week ago

You could self host revolt.

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[-] twoface@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Teamspeak 3 is ancient, but works.

However there is a new version of Teamspeak (TS5) which is much closer to Discord and looks much nicer. You could give that a try

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[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There isn't a full replacement for Discord out there, it'll have to be old school with multiple things together.

Teamspeak is great for voice comms (or Mumble). And you could use Matrix or XMPP for text chat. Matrix should be a lot better if you either self-host or join a smaller server that isn't so overloaded all the time.

For game streaming Broadcast Box paired with OBS Studio seems like a good option for low latency streaming.

[-] everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

matrix: unstable overall

"Unstable" is an understatement, and this comes from a girl who uses it all day every day.

Isn't it generally better if you use a smaller instance/host your own? Most of the complaints I've heard have been on the busier instances.

That said, I only use it occasionally to catch up on dev updates.

[-] everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

My current instance has ~160 users, and it's okay. I once used a friend's instance, where I was the 2nd user. It was very bad. That might in part be the fact that it was running Conduwuit though.

[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

If you or one of your friends can self-host, my group used mumble before discord. I still don't really know why we switched.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

XMPP/Jabber has whatever interface you choose (determined by the client you use), and does voice pretty darn well.

I'm currently using Jmp.chat as a SIM/data provider, and they provide an XMPP account via Snikket. I can connect to that account with pretty much any XMPP/Jabber client.

To me, XMPP/Jabber is the most flexible, because it's a protocol, and you choose which parts you want. And you can choose which clients you use. I have 2 clients on my phone and one on my laptop. They all work fine with the same account, with messages showing up at all simultaneously. One client (Snikket) has multiple accounts in it. The thing is XMPP/Jabber as a protocol is like SMTP - it's a standard, so all clients can communicate with each other, if they support the same features (eg OMEMO encryption, which is popular now).

Alternatively check out:

Teleguard, it's from the folks at SwissCows. They claim E2E, and from the way you connect devices, and that you can't recover an account from them, I tend to believe it. Though I haven't seen a third party evaluation (I belive they're closed source, unfortunately). So do with that what you will.

Simplex Chat, self hostable, they claim it's very secure. I've used it some, the phone app is a bit heavy on ram use.

There are numerous others out there.

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[-] sag@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

When it got banned? My Friend is from Turkiye. He still used it.

[-] elgordino@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago

Todays news

https://www.turkiyetoday.com/turkiye/turkiye-bans-discord-amid-concerns-over-platform-safety-62896/

For now, Discord users in Türkiye face limited access to the platform, though it remains unclear whether a full ban will be implemented in the coming days.

Still working for me on hotel wifi.

Edit: it won’t launch on my laptop now. Stuck trying to update. Still works on my phone.

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