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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 148 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Major media are oligarchs. Oligarchs are fascists. Fascists follow Trump. Plain and simple

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's what I came here to say. Who do you think owns the media???

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

"Yeah, but something something the news readers are registered Democrats, argle bargle" - the qons, not realizing the difference between the HELP and not the OWNERS. The help don't call the shots.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As crazy as all of this is, what's even crazier is that the actual truth, which is the full unredacted truth of this, is probably orders of magnitude worse than what we as public citizens are aware of.

The fact that this is not disqualifying is insane to me.

We continue to find more drips of the truth that many of us expected all along each week, like Kavanaugh's obstructed FBI investigation for example.

History will not be kind to trump or his supporters and enablers. That is, if we're allowed to write the truth of history.

I'm sure no one here is on the fence about voting, but PLEASE don't be apathetic about it, even if you're in a solidly blue state. Vote like your life depends on it. It just may be that important.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

btw if you're looking to have a more comprehensive coverage of jan 6th there are a couple of good resources out there.

If you're into the heavy reading, the jan 6th report is really comprehensive and detailed. (check this link for the document source.)

if you're more into long form run throughs (more of a podcast style) there's this and the accompanying second part of it these were originally part of a 6 hour long stream, which i do have archived, but i believe the archive is currently down.

if you prefer a more short form docu series type there's this though i haven't watched this one through yet so take it with a grain of salt lol. (edit: i've watched like half of it since posting, it's pretty much just a play by play of jan 6th as it happened, if you don't want any commentary or anything, it's a pretty good coverage of it.)

TL;DR nearly 900 page report, two indictments (one was post immunity ruling) a 6 hour panel over the facts of the j6 insurrection, broken into two parts, and a (probably) comprehensive documentary covering the events as well.

edit: added and cleaned up links.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good stuff! Thanks for adding

yeah np, i try to make people more educated where i can, or at least push them to knowing that you can educate yourself on this stuff given enough time.

It's better for society lol. Unfortunately it takes a shit ton of time though.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 70 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Holy crap, what a based media outlet.

  1. They actually have data to back up their claims
  2. They provided the methodology they used to conduct their investigation
  3. They (correctly) identified it as Clinton's server instead of Clinton's emails
  4. They're a not for profit

Media matters - I'll personally remember that name and you should to. Real journalism. Based.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are great, and have been around for quite a while now. Stephen Colbert (O'Lielly used to rail against them all the time; and cons call them "hateful", lol):

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1466651

[–] CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think Stephen Colbert was being serious when he said that quote. Mind you, all the quote sites that cite him saying that do not provide the source. Based on his persona from The Colbert Report, I imagine this was part of a joke, especially given the names he called out.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, he was totally doing that in character, if memory serves. Mocking the likes of Klannity and O'Lielly getting butthurt over the factual Media Matters.

I remember linking to that site in an exchange with someone I know, and they responded (this was over email) with "oh, Media Matters. Of course you'd rely on something even more liberal than the MSM!", or words to that effect. Not bothering to rely on the subject at hand, of course. It was just, oh, Media Matters, and noping out, LOL.

For qons, fact-checking qon nonsense and using their own words against them is like salt on a slug. It's weird how so many of the prominent ones now openly sneer and whine about being fact-checked! For years, the more low-info base would cry about sources, now people like bobo and empty g and "JD" "Vance" will whine about in in the moment. Not realizing it is not the flex they think it is to cry about not being able to brazenly lie without being called on it.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not like anybody is going to peek in the bathroom. Clearly secure.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

lock him up!

lock him up!

[–] spector@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact. Jan 6 is the the biggest criminal investigation in US history by sheer number of defendants. You'd never know from the way the news covers it.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

An investigation started under Trump, to seek out ANTIFA members who did it.... Only to eventually give up on that narrative when they remembered it was themselves all along, so now instead of prison sentences they are calling them by anything but criminals. You know, those pro military, pro police people... Campaigning under a person who shits on the military over and over, and supports the people who assualted the police on Jan 6.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

News: "The little kerfuffle on Jan 6th. You probably never heard about it"

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

Not enough media covfefe.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  • The media covers whatever gets them paid.
  • Trump figured out how to hack the media cycle. When the news gets spicy, he just makes even spicier news. (Real life "one simple trick!")
  • Everyone is so fatigued by the endless chaos that they start to tune it out.
  • The eye of sauron shifts and nobody cares about January 6 anymore, because that mofo is an actual contender to be elected yet again. That alone is more palpably terrifying news.
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

That's cause Trump breaking the law isn't news

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 24 points 2 months ago

It's because they want him to win the election :-)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And... Trump may actually win this...

fook

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Harris picked up a flagged campaign from Biden after he shit the bed in the first debate and made a big fanfare of diverging from the current administration. For a week or two, people got genuinely excited. They started talking about student loan forgiveness again. They started talking about Single Payer again. They started talking about changing the course on our sponsorship of genocide in Gaza and our brutal treatment of refugees on the southern border and our inability to hit climate goals. They started talking about reversing out the increasingly fascist SCOTUS and restoring civil rights to our police-state of a nation.

Then Harris began to campaign in earnest. She leaned more and more on the Techbros for fundraising. She brought more AIPAC lobbyists in as bundlers. She weedled and hedged on climate change, as guys like Eric Schmitt outright announced AI was more important than cutting carbon emissions. She began rolling out arch-conservatives from the Bush Era as her spokespeople and major sponsors. Jeff Flake was the featured speaker at the national convention. Dick and Liz Cheney started showing up at Harris campaign events. John fucking Negroponte endorsed her. Harris went on the view and outright stated she'd be in line with Biden, with the singular exception of including more Republicans in her cabinet.

What does anyone think this is doing to her enthusiasm among base voters? That critical block of Muslim refugees in the Midwest she needs to win in order to hold those states... how are they feeling right now? The college kids who had their campuses raided by police at the end of last semester, how excited are they feeling right now? Folks down in Florida who just got their state sliced in half by a hurricane, how excited are they to hear a candidate say we need more emissions-belching AI data centers?

We know Trump's ceiling from 2020. He pulled in 74M voters. He came within 40k votes across three swing states to beating Biden. And that was with a guy who was shoulder-to-shoulder with Bernie Sanders on election day.

Now Harris is playing footsy with the fucking Cheneys, Republicans so out of their element that they lost in Wyoming, as state that family practically owns wholesale. Absolutely clueless pack of fucking losers. If they cock this up, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Endorsed by Negroponte? When actual evil people endorse Harris, I don't know what to think. I am in despair for America.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

WHAAAAT? Are you implying that the liberal media is not interested in doing anything to save democracy? Even if it means they, as the liberal media, will be among the very first ones targeted?

This is my shocked face.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

Our media is almost exclusively owned by Republicans. Each and every one

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The only thing liberal about corporate media is how liberal they are being with the definition of "liberal" when it's applied to them as an adjective.

not to shit on you here, but the classical defintion of liberal is extremely broad and not specific at all.

Technically speaking, the classical western concept of liberalism is basically shortened to "live and let live" so.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You guys it's almost like the media wants him back in office or something.

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Endless daily headlines, stupid shit said hourly, think of all the coverage, all the outrage, all the clicks! Who needs democracy anyways if we've got ad revenue?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Democrats have heard Republicans whining about the "liberal media" for so long, they've accepted it as fact.

The third estate is not inherently benevolent or even benign. It is not your friend.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The peasantry?

I think you want the fourth estate.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh, i was confused why he was condemning the higher clergy, though on second thought, fuck those guys.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are correct. My mistake.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Your mistate

to be clear, the media isn't the thing we should be mad at here, it's the government and the political system that has allowed this bullshit thus far.

Media outlets are never going to be "unbiased" it's impossible, as demonstrated by conservatives being stupid as of late surrounding any number of events, including the recent debate. HOWEVER, we can simply report things ourselves, perhaps we should be moving towards a highly decentralized and vetted news system, rather than a more monolithic approach. Something that actually informs people on the important details, rather than being a "trust me bro" reporting system.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Nah, Jan 6 2.0 is just around the corner. They're waiting for that.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Putin's not paying minions for true stories about Jan 6th. (just sparkly embellished lies, laced with truth bits! About nothings other than the failed coup).

Propaganda first!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

How many papers are owned by left wing billionaires Alexa

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