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He then ends up suggesting the reason they don't like Harris is because she's a woman -

“Because part of it makes me think – and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that.”

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 40 points 20 hours ago

Fuck yeah! I'll say the same thing to white voters. And black voters. And Hispanic voters. And Asian voters. And Never-Trump Republicans. And...

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

Black celebrities have been poisoning the community against Obama for over a decade now. Parading him around as the "token black guy" of the liberal movement isn't the move. Making policies that help the community, and actually getting them passed, is what will make the difference. Until the Democrats start actually giving a shit about black people, instead of virtue signalling, then the black voter doesn't have any reason to vote. No one is on their side. Will Kamala change that? Honestly, probably not. Tim Walz has a better chance of that.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago

Making policies that help the community, and actually getting them passed, is what will make the difference.

We can't pass any policy anywhere in the country without bipartisan support and the blessing of the courts. Since the Republicans are in opposition and the courts are stacked with cranks, that means the best we can promise is that one day we'll have a Democrat Supermajority capable of passing compromise legislation with its more right-wing members.

Sorry, but these are just the rules, which are immutable and which we must abide by no matter how much pain they cause to our constituents.

Also, please note that conservatives are fully unbound by these rules. They can and will inflict incalculable harm on you if any single branch is in their control. There is, unfortunately, nothing liberals can do about this because interrupting the harm caused by the rules-breakers would be against the rules.

So the message we need to bring to black voters is that they only have themselves to blame if things get worse. It's cake or death and we're all out of cake.

No one is on their side. Will Kamala change that? Honestly, probably not. Tim Walz has a better chance of that.

Glances at Walz's record during the Minnesota BLM protests

Oof. I would not bank on it.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Isn’t the problem when the Democrats controlled the house and senate with Obama he did nothing with it.

[-] havocpants@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

I'm not an American, but didn't Obama's administration make an enormous positive change to healthcare in the US via the ACA?

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago

They did, and shit like that takes years to make happen thanks to how slow the government was intentionally set up to be.

But that's a convenient fact that is often left out.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Obama explicitly stated that his goal for immigration and climate reform was 70-80 "Yes" votes in the Senate. He spent months attempting to negotiate with Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and Susan Collins, who just ran him in a big circle to burn out the clock until mid-terms.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

The answer when facing opposition isn't to throw up your hands and declare it too difficult. Keep pushing, keep fighting, keep trying to improve the lives of marginalized groups. The fact that the Democrats aren't willing to put in the effort is all you need to know for the lackluster support.

Side note, don't fucking blame marginalized people when things go sideways.

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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

No one to blame but themselves? That's a great message.

"Hey, you've been marginalized your entire life by a system that has hated every generation of your family because of the color of your skin. I've got news for you, bucko, fix my problems, or I'll just keep blaming you."

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 23 hours ago

So the message we need to bring to black voters is that they only have themselves to blame if things get worse. It’s cake or death and we’re all out of cake.

Is that sarcasm...? Honestly, I can't tell.

If it's earnest, then i would have to guess that what you're after isn't electoral victory but radicalization. I'm not sure how you expect to tell a marginalized minority 'you have only yourself to blame' and have them turn out for you, that's just... Hopeless?

It's an excellent message to turn progressives into anarchists and revolutionaries, though, and I'm actually kind of here for it.

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