i'm really interested to see where this goes. i feel like a lot of the dorks (i say affectionately as a dork) who use the fediverse and people who do this kinda shortform video are two circles that don't touch, so this could very well die on the vine- no pun intended- or it could give the fedi the jolt it needs to enter the mainstream
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I'm really skeptical of its success primarily due to the immense costs of hosting video. Peertube exists already, and isn't nearly as successful as Mastodon/Lemmy primarily due to its hosting costs.
Yeah I wish there was a way to contribute to the hosting with torrent-like seeding. My phone can seed a torrent, but its not going to host an instance.
1 like = seed for 1 month seems like an interesting model
Naah I thought about this before and came to the conclusion that this isn't that bright of an idea. Here's why.
Why's video hosting so expensive in the first place? Because it needs a lot of computational power, storage and bandwidth. All three things that a mobile phone does not have. If you make your client's mobile phone do this stuff, then you're going to slow down their phone, make it heat up more, make it degrade faster (because it would be drawing power from the battery) and take up a huge chunk of their bandwidth.
Think of how video calls drain battery really fast. It's just shifting the costs of hosting from the hosting side to the consumer side while making the entire operation a lot more complicated and a lot more inefficient.
Take out the phone part and allow users to host videos in a decentralised way on their home computers and it's a genuinely good idea though. I have a server running with plenty of storage and reasonable upload speed. I could easily dedicate a terabyte or so, as long as I'm not the sole hoster.
It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than dedicated hosting. The only issue is legal problems when someone is unknowingly hosting abuse material, which is something that happens from time to time on all services like this, and an individual could be done for distribution without the protection big centralised services have. You'd just have to hope mods are on top of it.
Actually something like a debrid service but for peertube might work. You can get huge amounts of storage for cheap because a lot of it is shared, you might ask them to host a huge torrent file, but most torrent files serve multiple users, so the cost is distributed. Peertube could work a similar way if it were more mainstream.
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I use TikTok (around a hour a day) and use the Fediverse too(Mbin and Misskey fork), so I guess I am a target audience, so they do touch, pfft
Also there's Pixelfed userbase, I think they would like short form video platform, cause Instagram has it
A lot of people watch short form content but sets of people who make short form content and who use fediverse doesn’t overlap for sure.
I didn't get on TikTok because I didn't like the content, not because of the format. If folks make good videos on Loops then I'm down.
Storage costs is the biggest hurdle for decentralized video platforms. I wonder how instances will handle that.
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shorts are not my cup of tea. Pretty sure shorts have a negative impact on peoples attention span. I'd still be happy to see people watch their shorts on the Fediverse rather than at tiktok/yt. Of course, but still....
Sorry I stopped reading your comment after four words. Could you condense it to a five second clip with another following on within a secon sorry I forgot what we were talking about
*Rocket Racoon AI voice over old Minecraft footage*
I dont like shorts
bad attention span
like no tik tok.
Sorry, I couldn't follow your comment. Could you please interlay a second text in a different color that has poop jokes so I can have enough things to focus on? An injected mp4 of someone stapling sheet aluminum would help, too.
Just a tip for the developer/sysadmins of loops.video, as a developer myself: Seems like loops.video has no DKIM or SPF configured (if that's the domain being used to sent activation links/codes), so the tendency is for most email providers to block the mail or move it straight to Spam folder. The situation worsens when many users try to sign-up for an account, so loops.video sends a lot of sequential emails (which is something that could be seen as "spam behavior" by email providers). The developer should ensure that mail delivery is properly configured, particularly the trust headers (DKIM and SPF, as mentioned before) needed for sending emails.
Honestly just one or the other is OK. But having neither is an issue
Hopefully it's time it's not postponed 😄
Fingers crossed
Nice! I just wish it specified how short they're going to be.
This short
new boot goofin'
so short
Short enough for not be pants
Is google recaptcha still only good option?
Finally a place to post my tom shelby sigma edits.
Honestly, this whole thing is a mess... first a countdown, then a website with basically no information and that's only the start.
More than 24 hours after signing up, I finally got an email with just about zero information:
Hi @dfyx,
We're thrilled to welcome you to Loops.video!
We're in the process of onboarding all our new users, and we can't wait for you to experience the magic of short looping video.
Keep an eye out for another email from us later tonight or tomorrow (depending on when you signed up). It will have all the details you need to get started, including how to create your first Loop.
Welcome to the Loops community!
Regards, The Loops Team
And from some random comment that dansup made on pixelfed I found out that this beta is only for Android. Apparently, iOS will come later and there is no info on a browser-based version. That info should have been on the website. Also, what about selfhosting? This is the fediverse after all...
So, has anyone given it a try?
People seem to be waiting for the activation email
Kind of. All it shows for me is a registration form. When I submit it, they promise me to send an email with further instructions. So far, I didn't get anything. Honestly, they wouldn't have needed a countdown for that.
What it will be about?
I think like federated TikTok/Vine
A federated short video sharing platform. Basically YouTube Shorts or TikTok.
So feediverse tictok?
Except it's been ripped from TikTok first
Fediverse Vine, I hope.
Could I use my lemm.ee account and connect to it somehow?
Edit: signed up using my lemmy user (user@lemm.ee) I have no idea if this will work or not.
Nope, Lemmy does not support OAuth.
Damn that sucks. Cause I tried to sign up under another email and it says the user is taken
A non-evil, non-corporate tiktok has some huge potential.
I hope it works.
will it have direct messages? it would compete with snapchat a little too.
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Why do I need to create a new account for it? At least it should let me sign in with pixelfed account right?
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