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I'm sick of people in dumbshit states getting to choose who is president. This is an awful system that should be abolished.
If we suffer democratically because the average person is stupid, so be it.
If we suffer democratically because the stupidest among us have disproportionately heavy votes, that’s a real problem.
States with higher QoL should have heavier weighted votes. Boom tons of problems suddenly getting worked on.
One human, one vote. Nothing else is ethical.
It really is worth remembering that the Electoral College was designed the way it is to support slavery: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/electoral-college-racist-origins/601918/
The TLDR here is that this gave the South more voting power because they could partially count the non-voting slaves in coming up with the number of electors. And since the slaves couldn't vote, the elector system allowed their masters to essentially steal their 3/5s of a vote.
I have an unpopular opinion, If anything I think it should be switched over to large states have the same amount of Electoral College votes as small state, no more one state having 20+ votes versus one state having four make every state have equal say.
One state one vote, that vote is decided based off the popular vote of the state.
It makes zero sense to me that in a country where every state is supposed to have equal rights that States like California can have 54 votes, where States like Rhode Island and Maine have less than five.
The system would also Force our candidates to focus on more than just the Battleground States because it makes it so every state is a Battleground state, the amount of people that are in the state don't matter since the vote is based off popular vote so everyone's vote counts in the first place, while it also keeps the protections that the electoral college has allowing the smallest things to keep having a say.
I have no idea the impact such a system would do with the current electoral system, but I do believe it would be fair
I feel like that would become a self fulfilling prophecy very quickly, and result in America constantly punching down on the poorest states (instead of just the poorest people, like they do now)
Honestly I'd prefer that at this point. I'd like to be punching Alabama and Florida for failing their own people.
Stupid should be painful.
Why are we okay with this system where we allow the red states to shoot their citizens in the foot constantly and then expect the blue states to keep sending them all kinds of aid?
Let’s say everybody in a state is equally culpable for electing shit leaders for the sake of the hypothetical: this would be fine at first, but what happens if Florida gets their shit together in 30 years and makes a unified push for a good leader and real quality of life improvements for the people? (please suspend your disbelief lmao). All their votes together would mean nothing because of the shit QoL 30 years of republicans would get them, and they’d be powerless to enact any positive change unless the states doing the best under the new system decided to allow it. That’s what I mean by self fulfilling prophecy; poor states can only get poorer and rich ones get richer.
I think you're confusing state government with federal government.
The state governments can still enact their own state laws all they want. The high QoL states would still be voting for increased QoL at a federal level. Which would rise the tide even for the dipshits.
I just don’t have any faith in the kind of good state laws could do if the state is already at rock bottom. Seems like it’d require federal intervention (that would be against the interests of all the rich states) imo, tho I can’t pretend to know where Americans like to draw the line for when federal aid is okay lol.
I doubt that, instead it would be about the reps in those states working to actually lift the lives of their people up, instead of shitting all over them for ridiculous ideological reasons.
Ooh, what a fantastic idea. I love that.
Couldn't agree more. The EC is really just a suicide pact for a country that otherwise should be leading us into the future. Instead, we are being held back by people in flyover country with incredibly backwards notions of what the future should look like.
We call them cornhole conservatives
When I was at the UPS store trying to do some returns I got behind some pastor who was bitching about how back in Kansas or Kentucky or something he used to get folks from the govenor visiting. We are in California his own estimate of people going Sunday was about a thousand to two thousand, that isnt even a percent its below a statistical anomaly.
Its a fine example of how folks from flyover states think.
Yeah, but you get to feel like you're a democracy and you're participating at least, right?
Same. In terms of the mechanics of getting this fixed (abolishing the Electoral College), I'm partial to following the guide presented in https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21063591/modest-proposal-to-save-american-democracy-pack-the-union-harvard-law-review
But also open to other ideas.
I’m not sure if this is the explanation, but Republicans weren’t discouraged from early voting this year. In prior years, they were, and so there’s been a big boom of Republican votes at the last minute.
According to exit polls, these numbers are return voters, which would suggest there will be no last minute Republican vote surge this year.
Could be copium, obvs, but getting psyched up by early votes has been a real disappointment for me in every election.
A surprising number of Republicans in my red area of a battleground state are voting for Harris but will not say so because of death threats from the crazies in their own party.
I feel like that's part of their strategy. "Clearly the election was rigged! All these people said they would vote for Trump and didn't!"
It's just so goddamn depressing that so many people are voting for him. It's so much worse than last time, because nobody can say they don't know...
I just cannot imagine voting for such a vile person. I would probably kill myself.
More data here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote
I just hope Dem voter turnout stays high till up to and including Election Day
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