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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 143 points 1 year ago

Can't comment on the rest but Firefox has already released a patch in their update.

[-] Bestet@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 1 year ago

The article states that chrome released a patch on Monday and others are following.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Why in the hell is Nobara still on v114? Anyone know?

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because it's a hobby distro and that's the kind of end result you should expect from those.

Fellow Nobara user and man of culture, I see

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, for now. All the rolling release distros I tried were a disappointment in one way or another and Nobara has quite a lot of issues too that I can't find solutions for. But I guess I don't have anything to hop onto at the moment.

I'm in the same boat, and KDE is quite buggy for me under Nobara, but I'm too lazy to maintain a rolling distro and I haven't found anything yet that I like more.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I tried Gnome first since I haven't tested it long before their Unity overhaul and it was way worse. Really the worst desktop experience I've had (you can check my posts for a summary thread of my experience). The issues I have under KDE I did not have on any other distro so there must be something weird he's done with it.

You might have just made me search for a distro to hop to. I looked at OpenSUSE but then realised that software availability might just be a pain in the fourth point of contact. Why god why me

[-] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

GE probably didn't had the time to update or simply forgot, might be a good idea to ask on the Nobara channel in his Discord server

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Discord can go to hell.

[-] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago

oh no, guess we need to get rid of webp forever. Dang it.

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

Hope that trash google takes itself out .

[-] Kyoyeou@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 year ago

May I Ask why people don't like webp? I don't know the reason? To my eyes now it is a more ecological way of having pictures because of their lower weight?

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Proprietary formats are the bane of humanity. No one company, doesn’t matter, should have control over a file format. They should all be free and universally interoperable. A PSD, for example, should present and store data the same way if used on Photoshop or Pixelmator.

Companies are not your friends.

[-] Gawdl3y@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

WebP is not proprietary. It's an open format, is not patent-encumbered, and its reference implementation/libraries are open-source. It is driven mostly by Google, similar to Chromium.

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

They took the open source WebKit to develop Chrome and Chromium.

How did that turn out?

Google wants to own images. Doesn’t matter if they made the licensing whatever. They make webp. They have a personal vested interest in control.

You trust Google???

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They took the open source WebKit to develop Chrome and Chromium.

How did that turn out?

Perfectly? Web browsers are way better now than they ever have been.

Google wants to own images. Doesn’t matter if they made the licensing whatever. They make webp. They have a personal vested interest in control.

WebP is a little better than PNG/JPEG and way better than GIF. That's all that really matters.

You trust Google???

Hell no. I reluctantly watch a bit of content that's exclusively available on YouTube. Don't use anything else of theirs and I'd drop YouTube in a heartbeat if I could find that content elsewhere.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 8 points 1 year ago

This is just me, but when I download a PNG I know it's lossless, when I download a jpeg I know it is lossy but probably a "photo-like" image, a gif? You get it.

One firmat to rule them all will get you badly compressed pixel graphics and unnecessary large "photo" images and so on, not because the format is bad, but if it lets you do so, people will (and companies obviously).

Most images on the internet are way under a MB, is there really that important to lower it slightly?

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Most images on the internet are way under a MB, is there really that important to lower it slightly?

It's because companies always want to include 100 or 200 or 1000 pictures, because of all the products they are selling, they want to sell them all and right away.

It's dumb, I hate it. lol

[-] Gawdl3y@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a better format than JPEG, GIF, or PNG, while doing the jobs of all of those, but better (in most cases), and is an open format. It also has wide compatibility nowadays. The only major downside is a lot of social media services don't even think about it being a potential format due to a lack of awareness/wide usage, leading to a degraded experience when someone shares a WebP somewhere (lack of auto-embedding as an example). I suspect this is why it gets a lot of hate here, which is unfortunate because it's not at all the fault of the format.

AVIF (based on AV1) is the up-and-coming format that beats WebP in most cases now, but support isn't quite there yet (mostly due to Apple), and it has the same problems for social media as WebP. However, it doesn't have any true lossless mode AFAIK. HEIF (based on HEVC) is also good, but is heavily patent-encumbered and not as open. JPEG-XL is dope and potentially even better in some aspects, but has very poor support across the board.

[-] 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch 70 points 1 year ago

I'd just say Chromium browsers and Firefox instead of 'other browsers'. Either way Firefox already put out a security fix so that's neat.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

WebKit based browser users: There are dozens of us!

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In Windows/Linux perhaps. There are far too few options. But combined, there are a lot of iPhones, iPads and Macs…

[-] TheDarkBanana87@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

Is it time for us to switch to JPEGXL

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 68 points 1 year ago

Chrome removed support for it because they didn't invent it.

[-] HornyOnMain@kbin.social 96 points 1 year ago

In Google's defense, they're plenty willing to remove support for things they did invent!

[-] Desistance@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Except they did invent it. They were on the development panel.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago

Not like it would be any more secure.

[-] skullvalanche@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Just came here to say that this also affects any applications that use the libwebp library.

That includes many apps that most people don't think of as "browsers".

Electron based applications all use chromium under the hood, and are quite common/prolific these days.

https://www.electronjs.org/apps

Expect updates to a lot of things in the near future.

[-] LaggyKar@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago

Expect updates to a lot of things in the near future.

And also a lot of things that remain unpatched for years

[-] Spudwart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Companion1666@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago
[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Welp, time to update my browser after months.

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org -3 points 1 year ago

Webp is literally AIDS.

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