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[-] Kiwi_fella@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You're a foreign actor, trying to influence the elections. Very bad. Much evil.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 58 points 1 day ago

Anyone who thinks Trump is the sole problem and that him being out of the news will solve all the problems is clueless.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 20 hours ago

That was not the claim. Just that Trump news are nasty and Trump is one of the few Republicans who has enough charisma to end up in the news. If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background. It means the Republicans need a new leader and whoever that is, is probably going to fail.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background.

By no means. That's what people thought in 2020, and look what happened.

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[-] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know what you're saying. That the environment that gave us Trump would still exist. Sure. All the issues, both illegitimate (white resentment, racism, propaganda) and legitimate (wealth disparity, disillusioning political figures, late stage capitalistic despair), would still remain.

But that also gives too little importance to Trump's unique place in this. He is a uniquely cynical, sociopathic trigger that is exploiting this populist anger, while being so incompetent that he fails to solve any of those issues underlying it.

He thus is simultaneously perpetuating those issues, while feeding off of them - both creating and burning the fuel of populist anger. DeSantis, Vance, Hawley, all the other toe-headed power-simps who would step in to take his place would fail to hold that paradoxical balance for long - they think they can learn it, but Trump is built for it. That is Trump's unique skill, his singularly destructive, delusional, sociopathic egomania.

Like a wildfire - yes, when there are dry hot conditions, many things could start one. But it's also true that you may have been almost through the dry, hot season when a wildfire hits. And if you could have prevented that first fateful spark a week - maybe a day - longer, you could have avoided catastrophe and tragedy.

I think that's where we were in 2016, and we failed to contain it. It spread so far, that we were barely able to contain it in 2020. But if we can avoid it in 2024, if we can prevent Trump from sparking another wildfire, maybe the season could change.

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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

Also, if they think he'll just fuck off if he loses, they've not been paying any fucking attention..

[-] Clanket@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I can't wait to see what he does when he loses.

[-] Talisker@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Peak liberalism.

Imagine thinking that once the loudest symptom of fascism is no longer visible, the decades long multibillion dollar Republican project to undemocratically seize power just goes away. That all the structural issues with America go away.

Big “We want to go back to brunch” energy.

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[-] Modva@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Agree with the sentiment for sure, but would also add that a lot of Americans like him, they LIKE what he said, he was heavily supported at last count. Even now he is supported substantially.

That is something many people need to think about. What happens next election? He won't be the last.

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Others don't seem to have the hold over those clowns as he does. Meatball Ron fell flat. Vance wouldn't maintain this level of support for 5 minutes. Hawley can't. Horse face green is just a clown and not a serious candidate.

I think his losing again would snap some people out of it.

I think the party would bail on him. Especially if he causes losses down the ballot. They won't back him for another election.

[-] Modva@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I hope you're right.

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

Snowshadow is a great follow 👍🏻

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 14 hours ago

is this your alt

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

We’re trying! Sadly we are wedged between two factions that are hell-bent on getting him elected.

One, purposefully- the other, ignorantly.

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[-] don@lemm.ee 8 points 23 hours ago

“Dear ~~USA~~ conservatives…”

[-] Stomata@buddyverse.one 1 points 15 hours ago

Even outside of usa

[-] notsure@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago

i'm doing my part!

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

sadly, voting him out does not erase him.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

I think it would work reasonably well, because losing twice in a row sends a pretty clear message.

Someone younger than him will pick up the torch though, so his ideas will unfortunately live on.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

people younger than him are already driving a lot of his public policy pronouncements, so those policies might as well be attributed directly to them. if they left diaper don to his own devices, much of his following wouldve evaporated by now save for the racial extremists.

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[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

I was thinking, "Wait, we can vote him out of existence?"

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

if we cannot incarcerate, exile him. let him go crying back to putin and see how accepted hell be

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

It's amusing that Trump can't see that Putin will drop him as soon as his usefulness ends, just like Trump does to people who support him (Giuliani, for example).

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

i hope thats what happens to him when he gets there.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

We would be happy to see him running from prison.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

he would still be eligible to assume the office from there so no thanks

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