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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Has the orange clown ever spoken the truth?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

TLDR: It has lowered since the 90s if you trust the FBI. Facts dont matter in the GOP's Vibefest tho.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

Newt Gingrich: People feel violent crime is up, so I'll go with that instead of the facts.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

There was a spike in crime during the early 2020's, but aside from that, you are correct.

Crime has steadily been going down ever since we removed lead from gasoline. (are those things related? Probably?)

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Crime is up in Trump's immediate vicinity because he keeps committing crimes and surrounding himself with people who commit crimes on his behalf.

But that's a sampling error. Most of the country is not as crime-ridden as wherever he goes.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Since when has Trump been right about anything?

He couldn't get something as relatively simple as his inauguration size or a hurricane track, you think he's suddenly mastered violent crime statistics?

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

Generally, the one is right who builds his argument on verifiable facts coming from trustworthy sources, or at least tries to as best as possible. There are police statistics about crime rates. In Germany for example, crime is actually going down. It's very likely that Harris is right and Trump is not. This is usually the case, without even looking at anything specific. Trump lies and does baseless/unverifiable claims about pretty much anything, all the time. His followers then think he's somehow right because he's anti-establishment or they think that it's all a giant conspiracy and Trump is the only one who knows the truth, again without any kind of verifiable facts behind it. This can then spiral into pure fact-free lunacy or high fantasy thinking, or cult-like thinking.

That crime is going down, is of course a fact that doesn't fit at all into the right-wing world view or rhetoric of blaming and demonizing immigrants. So they usually then claim that those facts come from untrustworthy sources or are generally fake news or whatever, again without any verifiable evidence. Because they don't want facts but easy solutions to complex problems, like minorities to blame for whatever problems they currently believe in. If they radicalize themselves enough, and this can happen fast on today's internet within their own echo chambers, they might become so far removed that they become lunatic and/or violent, and then they become dangerous. Fascism is very similar to a cult.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The poop filled diaper of Donald's is effecting his brain. He does not know what truth is.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, that diaper is a crime. He must be using that as part of the statistic.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago

They will each change opinion depending on who wins the election