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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by bunitor to c/adhd@lemmy.world
 

my new psychiatrist gradually took me off of ritalin+venlafaxin and introduced bupropion, first 150mg while cutting the venlafaxin dosage in half, and now 300mg of bup alone, completely removing venlafaxin

it's been 4 days i think since this last update and it's been fucking rough. i'm not sure if it's just the venlafaxin withdrawal or if the bupropion is contributing to it, but i feel like shit, i'm getting constant brain zaps unless i remain completely still with as little stimulation as possible, been having nightmares every single day, am extremely irritable and im not even sure the bupropion is even helping at all

is anyone else under the same treatment? it feels like a fringe/experimental treatment, but id like to confirm this from other adhders

thanks

edit: thank you so much for all the answers! they helped me to calm down and reassured me a bit. the symptoms are starting to wear off, so that also halped.

very late update: the venlafaxin withdrawal waned off and now i'm feeling so much better than before. this is working way better than ritalin

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[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have been on both of those and I don't think you'll notice the bupropion helping until you're out of the withdrawing stage. Venlafaxine is a really wicked one to quit, I'm a bit surprised your doctor didn't do a longer taper off schedule.

For what it's worth, I really loved buproprion, and it's done wonders for my bff who also has adhd.

[–] bunitor 2 points 1 month ago

my venlafaxin dose was originally 75mg, so he planned to reduce it to 37,5mg for a month then take if off completely. reducing to 37,5 was fine so i thought taking it off would be too ig

fwiw not feeling that annoying ritalin anxiety anymore last month did indeed feel pretty good. your comment gave me a little bit of hope, so ty

[–] CentrifugalChicken@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not what you asked and I don't take bupropion, but I did come off of venlafaxine, and it was a horrorshow of brain zaps and nightmares until I went onto fluoxetine.

[–] bunitor 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i knew venlafaxin withdrawals were nasty, but i didn't know they could last so long. i thought id be fine after 2-3 days

[–] ellabee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my Dr said to expect a couple weeks when I go off it, if I ever do. and supposedly the all the way off is worse than just going down

[–] bunitor 1 points 1 month ago

i wish i was warned like that

it frustrates me so much. the doctor that introduced me to venlafaxin never warned me about the withdrawal symptoms, even though i showed concerns about that, and the current doctor never warned me that they would linger for so long

[–] Sombyr@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bupropion was by far the most effective med I ever took, but I personally got really bad side effects and I had to stop really quickly. None of the side effects you got though. Just extreme tiredness and getting over emotional. I also might have had a mild seizure, but it's not known if it was the bupropion that caused it. I was in the ER pumped with a load of other drugs that also could potentially cause it, but my psychiatrist took me off it anyway just to be safe.

[–] bunitor 3 points 1 month ago

according to the leaflet, although it's rare, having seizures is one of the known side-effects

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 6 points 1 month ago

Bupropion is the only antidepressant that works for my mood. The SSRIs and SNRIs make me feel numb and dumb, so I hate them. However, bupropion doesn't have any noticeable impact on my adhd. I gotta take ritalin for that.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

When I was put on bupropion it made me dissociative, but I'm also bipolar which may have played a role. My psych prescribed it bc she didn't want to put me on a classical stimulant specifically because I'm bipolar. I ended up on Ritalin though, which didn't have significant adverse effects

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

My bupropion was jacking my blood pressure to the point where at an ER visit (for headaches from eye strain), the nurses were looking at me like I was the walking dead. I switched ultimately to a low dose of Desvenlafaxine (Pristiq) which does the trick, without too awful sexual side effects. Also 20 mg Adderall ER.

[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Didn’t work at all for me. Tried it when stimulants were nearly impossible to get. I gave it a few months too. When I was finally able to stimulants again I was able to get back on track with things. That being said I’ve heard for some people it’s worked well. Though no one I know in person has found that to be the case, so YMMV

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Bupropion is rough. I took it for nearly a decade for depression. Headaches, shakes, and fuzzy memory. It didn't help my ADHD (then-undiagnosed), but it did wonders for making me feel less physically exhausted during periods of depression.

[–] Mighty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah as the others have written, the withdrawal off venlafaxin is rough. If I could change one thing in my life it would be to taper it off for half a year or more. I took it out too quickly I think and dealt with the symptoms of withdrawal for months.

Bupropion for me was the first antidepressants that seemed to really work while still making me feel human. Lots of bad stuff didn't happen. Now I'm slowly getting rid of it. It's gonna take me months this time... Good luck with it. Everyone's experience is gonna be different.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

My doctor cut my dose way too fast as well and it definitely sucked but I adjusted after a couple weeks. She did raise my bupropion at the same time though.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

My doctor took me off Venlafaxine which was paired with bupropion and raised the dose on the bupropion. I actually like it. I it nixes my anxiety, gives me energy, and treats my suspected executive dysfunction and attention issues too.

I was given escitalopram first but it didn't help enough so I asked for an SNRI and the psych doctor gave me Venlafaxine which helped but caused weight gain and lethargy so they added bupropion and now my PCP changed over to just bupropion and it works like a charm. I guess instead of an SNRI I needed an NDRI.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

I was on it and it was the only time I passed my exams. It worked really well for my depression, adhd not so much. But atleast I could get up and go attempt the tests.

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bunitor 5 points 1 month ago

its hard to explain, but it's this weird and really unpleasant "zapping" feeling in the head, which feels a bit like your brain is going static for a split second. sometimes i get 4, 5 "zaps" one after the other. it fucking sucks and it makes it really hard to do anything that takes even a little bit of mental effort

[–] Dakkaface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Buproprion has largely been good for me, but its less effective than Adderall. Teeth clenching and dry mouth side effects.

If it's only been four days it shouldn't even be at full effectiveness tho. I remember having to slowly increase my dose over a couple weeks until I was at therapeutic level, and if I missed a bunch of time I had to do it again.

[–] bunitor 1 points 1 month ago

to make it clear, ive been taking bupropion for about two months now. what happened five days ago was increasing the dosage from 150mg to 300mg and taking off the venlafaxin, which had already been reduced to 37,5mg from 75mg last month

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bupropion fucked with my hormones in really bizarre ways, which was really unfortunate because it was super effective otherwise.

[–] bunitor 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

could you give more details (if it's not a problem to you ofc)

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It was really effective (increase in focus & motivation, large decrease in depressive symptoms) for both my depression and for my ADHD when combined with my normal meds, but I couldn’t help but notice wild hormone fluctuations (that were absolutely as a result of the bupropion and couldn’t be attributed to anything else) that only got worse as my dosage increased. These hormone fluctuations caused a whole span of other issues, everything from emotional instability to cramping and my period going really out of whack. It was very reminiscent of going through puberty, honestly. And all of that went away when I switched to something else instead. Shame, really, as the replacement meds aren’t as effective, but they also don’t make me feel like I’m 13 again either, so ultimately it’s a win